Subject: Start From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 20:25:22 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404131931.AA26507@Early-Bird.Think.COM> (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09910; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:31:31 -0600 From: khd@karloff.lanl.gov Subject: Parts in Portland, OR? To: qrp@Think.COM Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:31:31 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I'm headed through Portland, OR next week and was wondering if there is a place to pick up "onesies and twosies" of parts for the qrp junk box, particularly things like Amidon cores, etc? tnx Keith, ab5qe khd@lanl.gov From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 20:34:04 1994 Return-Path: id AA25352; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:57:21 PDT id AA21409; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:57:16 PDT (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA17821; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:55:40 -0500 From: Randall Rhea Posted-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:55:40 CDT Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:55:40 -0500 Message-Id: <9404131955.AA17821@atlas> Subject: Re: Building DSP into QRP rig To: jpo@acd4.acd.com (Jim Osburn) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:55:40 CDT Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404131329.AA05826@IEDV5.acd.com>; from "Jim Osburn" at Apr 13, 94 8:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk => =>I think I will build my Radio Shack DSP-40 into my next homebrew rig. =>The DSP-40 comes with an audio amplifier, a speaker, volume control, =>jacks, etc.. That's stuff a QRP rig needs anyway. It also has the DSP. =>That will make my QRP rig "high tech". And the DSP-40 runs off 12 V. =>All I have to do is get it out of the plastic case it's in and mount =>it in the case of my QRP rig. I'll probably build a shielded enclosure =>around the DSP-40 out of PCB material so the digital stuff doesn't mess =>up the RF. Does anyone have a part number for this thing? I asked a guy at Radio Shack last night, and he knew nothing about it. How much is it? Is it supposed to be available at the stores now? 73 DE KG0HW =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Informix Software, Inc. Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems randall@informix.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 21:00:52 1994 Return-Path: (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:06:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:57:44 From: rsmills@mtu.edu (Ron Mills) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: New Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Name: Ron Mills QTH:Houghton, MI (Upper Peninsula) Michigan Technological University Call:N8ZBL (Soon to be changed) Email:RSMILLS@mtu.edu QRP Rig:None Yet (Going to get MFJ 9140) Hobbies:Camping,Hiking,Fishing,HAM Radio (obviously!) Other: If anybody has suggestions about a good, innexpesive QRP rig, please let me know, I am a college student and funds are hard to come by. Also if you are HF active, give a call to W8YY, cw or voice, I might just respond. W8YY is the club station for the Husky Amatuer Radio Club (HARC). From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 21:39:19 1994 Return-Path: <01HB4QW8SHMOFS5JLE@tntech.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:47:27 CDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:47:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "JEFF M. GOLD" Subject: QRP transceiver cases To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HB4QW8TAKIFS5JLE@tntech.edu> X-Vms-To: QRP X-Vms-Cc: JMG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk All, Having gotten into the "Nothing is really Junk" mode I tend to look at my and other people's garbage in new ways. OK.. what am I talking about? Well take for example my old small toaster oven. I had kept it alive for years with rewiring and such. It finally kicked the bucket for good. I took all the pieces apart and couldn't quite bring myself to through some of them away. The top case was real shiny heavy duty metal.. couldn't think of a purpose in the universe for it.. threw it in my attic. When I decided to get into mobile..my only extra rig was a Ten Tec Argonaut 509 and I needed to put it into a small Acura Integra (same size as honda Accord). I regularly carry passengers in the front seat so couldn't give up the seat. After some consideration.. I finally determined I could open the glove compartment and the top of the toaster oven was the exact size to be fastened to the inside of it and have it such that if I took the rig out there would be no ugly marks. I brought the top into a shop at work and cut the sides at an angle so that a person's legs would still fit. I drilled 4 holes and the Argonaut was the perfect size to fit on it. (should see the looks some of my passengers give me.) Well the real reason I am writing this is that while passing through the fix it shop center of here at our Computer Center I noticed a small 232 switch box that was deffective.. I picked it up and started to examine it.. it is really nice metal.. with a two position switch.. the person in charge of buying them told me they cost $4.95 NEW. Take the 232 connectors out of the box.. a little paint over. you got one fine small QRP transceiver case.. sometimes at ham fests think you can pick them up for $1 or so. This one was 6" X 2 1/4" X 5" form Computer Gate internationsl (408)730-0673.. they had more sizes. I warned them never to through any of these away. 73 Jeff, AC4HF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 22:33:20 1994 Return-Path: id AA29938; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:08:03 PDT id AA05340; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:07:29 PDT (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA28973; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:06:24 -0500 From: Randall Rhea Posted-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 17:06:24 CDT Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:06:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9404132206.AA28973@atlas> Subject: Re: The Spring ARCI QRP Party To: gmd@adm01.rfc.comm.harris.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 17:06:24 CDT Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404131534.AA09330@usc02.rfc.comm.harris.com>; from "gmd@adm01.rfc.comm.harris.com" at Apr 13, 94 11:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk =>I am investigating a vertical antenna design for 160m, due to =>lot size restrictions. Once I get an antenna "working", I'll =>document the nn1g mods and include a working antenna design for =>the space impaired. I've used a small 160m antenna that works pretty well. Wind about 250 feet of insulated #14 wire onto a 1-inch diameter wooden hand rail that is 16 feet long. (lumber yards have these) Put a couple of coats of spar varnish on the hand rail first. Attach the wire to an aluminum pie plate at the top of the antenna, and put a 4-foot whip from a mobile antenna above that. Give the whole thing another coat of varnish. You will need some sort of matching network at the feed point at the bottom of the antenna; I use an antenna tuner. Mount the antenna vertically. Install as many buried radials as you can, and make them as long as possible. This antenna is described in the ARRL Antenna Book as well as in Doug DeMaw's Antenna Book. Another option, if you have the room, is an inverted L. This is actually a vertical antenna with a top load. The vertical part of the antenna should be as long as possible. Some hams actually use a tower as the vertical part of the antenna. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Informix Software, Inc. Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems randall@informix.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 23:25:46 1994 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 00:21:07 GMT From: g3rjv@gqrp.demon.co.uk (George Dobbs G3RJV) Reply-To: g3rjv@gqrp.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <601@gqrp.demon.co.uk> To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Super Keyer II X-Mailer: PCElm 1.09 Lines: 10 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Good Evening QRPers I have just had a phone call from Ian, G3ROO, asking me if I can get him another Super Keyer Kit when I am at Dayton. We both bought the original Idiom Press kits. Are they still available - who sells them? ... and are there likely to be any at Dayton? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Dobbs G3RJV "It is vain to do with more, G-QRP Club what can be done with less." -------------------------------------------------- William of Occam (1290-1350) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 23:26:04 1994 Return-Path: id AA12369; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:48:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9404132350.AA22256@es1.local> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:50:56 -0400 From: kaul@nbc.ge.com To: howi@world.std.com Subject: your note to internet Cc: Qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 13 23:50:18 1994 Return-Path: id AA04813; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:00:53 PDT id AA21405; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:00:52 PDT id AA21041; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:02:21 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:01:38 -0700 (PDT) From: stark Subject: Re: Permission To: howie cahn Cc: Doug Hendricks , Qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Sounds good to me. Ron, KU7Y From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 02:43:34 1994 Return-Path: id AA25449; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:45:17 HST id AA26887; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:58:45 HST Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:58:45 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: [kaul@nbc.ge.com: your note to internet] Cc: jherman@Think.COM Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am of the opinion that everything sent to the net IS publishable, unless the writer states otherwise. After all, there are at least 300 folks on the net - what difference if a few hundred more read what we say? It just might interest others in QRP (maybe even a few QRO's). Also, when you state an opinion such as you have it would be nice if you signed your name and callsign. Jeff NH6IL --------------- id AA12369; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:48:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9404132350.AA22256@es1.local> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:50:56 -0400 From: kaul@nbc.ge.com To: howi@world.std.com Subject: your note to internet Cc: Qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 09:00:04 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404141153.AA01150@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:58:02 EDT From: C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil Subject: QRP Cases To: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, Jeff Gold's ideas come as a relief. I thought I was the only one who thought that way. I view every piece of "junk" as a possible candidate for an enclosure. Here's a challenge. Find some of the Ethernet Baluns made for 10base2. They have been seen at hamfests for about $2 - $3. They would make an excellant case for a mini transmitter, and they already have a BNC connector installed! Maybe you could key them with your key connected to the RJ-45 jack. Now maybe I'm the weird one. 72 de Cameron, KT3A. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 12:01:50 1994 Return-Path: <01HB5PLMMUNKFS5SH7@tntech.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:20:36 CDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:20:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "JEFF M. GOLD" Subject: Electronics Workbench To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HB5PLMNNLEFS5SH7@tntech.edu> X-Vms-To: QRP X-Vms-Cc: JMG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk HI, I will see if anyone here is interested before I post on Swap. I have a brand new sealed in plastic copy of Electronics Workbench for Windows. It is an incredible program used to Design and verify Circuits. I have used it here at the university (this is a legitt copy that I purchased for myself.. but the computer deal I was working on fell thru.. doesn't do much good without a computer). Analog mode includes: ------------------------- -complete control overa all component values -ideal and real-world models for all active components -resistors, capacitors, inductors, transformers, relays, dioddes, -Zneer diodes, LEDs, BJTs, opamps, bulbs, fuses, JFETs and Mosets -manual, time-delay, voltage-controlled, and current controlled sources -multimeter -functions generator (1 Hz to 1Ghz) -dual-trace scope -Bode plotter -SPICE simulation of transient and steady-state response Digital mode includes: ------------------------- -fast simulation of ideal components -AND, OR, XOR, NOT, NANAD and NOR gates -LED probes, half-adders, switches and seven-segment displays -word genterator (16 eight-bit words) -logic analyzer (converts among gates, truth table and Boolean representations) In magazines $299.00.. sell for $150.00 +shipping or trade for really nice meter that has capacitance and inductance appropriate for QRP building (and lots of other functions), or possibly for some other ham related item. 73 Jeff, AC4HF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 12:52:13 1994 Return-Path: (1.36.108.7/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA10060; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 07:02:02 -0700 (1.37.109.4/15.5+IOS 3.20+cup+OMrelay) id AA13396; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:01:53 -0700 From: Gene Marshall Message-Id: <9404141401.AA13396@hpswtgm.cup.hp.com> Subject: Super Keyer II availability To: QRP@Think.COM Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 7:01:52 PDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hi George: > .. We both bought the original Idiom Press kits. Are they still > available - who sells them? I just purchased by *first* Super CMOS Keyer II from Idiom Press for my OHR Spirit. What a great keyer! They are still available. The USA cost was $49.00 which included shipping. If you need their address or phone number, let me know; I can check tonight. 72 Gene -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Gene Marshall \-\-\ email: genem@cup.hp.com | |Hewlett Packard Co., MS 42UN | Tel: 408/447-5282 | |Software Svcs & Tech. Division (SST) | ___o Fax: 408/447-5039 | |11000 Wolfe Road L^\<._ AA6IY@N6LDL.CA.USA.NA | |Cupertino, CA 95014 (_)/ (_) CompuServe: 75060,260 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 13:31:48 1994 Return-Path: 14 Apr 94 10:28 EDT id AA12200; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:27:41 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:27:41 EDT From: klaudon@PICA.ARMY.MIL Message-Id: <9404141427.AA12200@batdd6.batdd1.pica.army.mil> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: RS DSP-40 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I saw one on display at my local Radio Schlock yesterday (4/13). It sells for $ 79.95 and is a nice looking little gadget (FWIW). I am friends with the mgr. there, and I told him I would be back next week, after my taxes were in, to treat myself to a few goodies, with my usual "manager's discount for preferred customers". Well, I went to my accountant last night for our annual ritual, and it turns out I owe a few thou to rotten NY state! So much for my goodies. My older son's 5th birthday is coming up in a few weeks. We were thinking about putting in one of those fancy wooden backyard swingset/gym/clubhouse things. Hmmm, do you think a 5 year old would rather have a DSP, new 2m HT, and would share them with his Pop? At least I'll get exercise putting up his new swingset! 73, ------------------------------ Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land QRP ARCI No. 8385 ------------------------------ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 13:52:55 1994 Return-Path: id AA19711 for qrp@think.com; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:37:32 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0prSU9-000B3gC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:33 EDT id AA107455 ; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:08:53 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 13:14:06 GMT Message-Id: <16946@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Radio Shack DSP Filter Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Part number is 21-543. Each store is supposed to have one. 73 Jim, KR1S From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 14:32:27 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404141444.AA08296@Early-Bird.Think.COM> From: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:44 EDT To: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To: qrp@think.com Subject: Thanks Hi folks, Just a quick note to say thanks for all the words of wisdom and the help offered during the QSO Party. Looking forward to next year. Had a good time on the air, and really enjoy this mailing list group. By the way, Cameron, have been unable to post email to your mailing address. Contact me to verify your address. Strongly considering your offer, need more details. Take care, 73 John N3PFF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 14:57:49 1994 Return-Path: id AA22444; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:13:29 -0400 id AA27774; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:16:05 EDT id AA17730; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:16:04 EDT Message-Id: <9404141416.AA17730@kaos.ksr.com> To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: [kaul@nbc.ge.com: your note to internet] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:58:45 -1000." Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:16:03 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable. > I am of the opinion that everything sent to the net IS publishable, unless > the writer states otherwise. After all, there are at least 300 folks on > the net - what difference if a few hundred more read what we say? It just > might interest others in QRP (maybe even a few QRO's). Technically, anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give explicit permission; and certainly as a matter of courtesy, a publisher would be doing better to make sure he or she has explicit permission rather than relying on even well-grounded implicit permission. As to why someone might be willing to have the 300 people on QRP@think.com read something but not the 400 extra readers of QRPp: email tends to be thought of as an evanescent phenomenon (even though many mailing lists are archived), but a magazine is quite obviously reasonably permanent; one might say things on a mailing list that one would rather not be reminded of 10 years from now when someone leafs through their back issues of a magazine. Also, many people put less effort into composition of email than they would for a magazine submission, even a relatively informal magazine like QRPp, and might at least prefer the opportunity to correct speeling misteaks grammatical and errors. Furthermore, if blanket permission is assumed for QRPp, what stops someone else from gathering all the interesting comments from the mailing list, removing the attributions, and publishing them in a book as supposedly original work? This issue has actually come up on USENET in several places, causing several interesting and creative writers to stop posting their best work. That said, I wouldn't generally object to having anything I write on mailing lists or USENET republished, but I do appreciate being asked. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 15:10:03 1994 Return-Path: id AA04567; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:34:01 -0400 Reply-To: bmitchel@CBA.Kodak.COM (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:29:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:29:27 -0400 From: Brad Mitchell Message-Id: <199404141429.AA13721@hobby1.cba.kodak.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: QRP cases Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Doug Demaw polularized in the 80's usage of different items for cases. I beleive that in his QRP notebook he says something to the effect that every time he goes to the grocery store to buy food, he always looks at the different cans for useage other than content. To let my secret out of the bag, I hate that flavored coffee stuff, but my wife loves it. She complained that it costs too much, but I told her that if she likes it she should buy it.... Well the little rectangular tin cases with the vacuum seal plastic lid are great for all sorts of things in the shack. I use them for storing air variables so the fins dont get bent, I use them for projects. I use them to store my xtals. I have threatened to build an nn1g into one, I have about 30 of them now. I think Doug Demaw's cases look pretty slick too. He uses p.c. board to make a u channel , then wraps metal grating around the u channel for the top. This metal grating is available at all hardwares, I'm not sure of the usage, but maybe for cabinet doors that need to have air circulation. Cases can be one of the most intriguing part of any project that you make. When I first started making my qrp equipment, I used double sided p.c. board and soldered brass hinges on the tops of the rigs. Then I hand painted acrylic on the box, and then hand painted letters, and then polyurethaned the entire thing. Boy do they look ugly. But I bet my bright green little boxes stand out in a crowd with the lid flipped up and my callsign exposed. Some examples of this are in the WB8YGG.gif on think.com. One of my latest rigs was built into an electrical utility box that both the front and back are removable. I built a 20 meter nn1g rig that was entirely mounted on the front steel panel. When you unscrew the front panel, you can pull the entire rig out of the box. That was a challenge to my mechanical ability. I think that one thing that I have learned with these building experiences is that whatever you use, you can make things look nice if you try hard enough. I simply do not take as much time as others with the case, but some of my stuff looks pretty good despite myself. 73 Brad WB8YGG From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 15:34:43 1994 Return-Path: id AA19725; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:27:16 -0600 for qrp@think.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:27:14 -0600 (CST) From: Peter Hardie Subject: Re: your note to internet To: qrp mailing list In-Reply-To: <9404132350.AA22256@es1.local> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 kaul@nbc.ge.com wrote: > > I am of the opinion that material should NOT be assumed to be publishable. > I agree. But there's no reason why individual authors can't give blanket permission to publish to anyone who asks. I'd prefer the chance to at least review what I wrote before it is published. Pete ve5va.qrp@usask.ca From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 16:56:23 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for qrp@think.com); Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:20:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:12:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew Arnett Subject: Re: QRP Cases & junk scrounging To: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404141153.AA01150@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil wrote: > Hello, > Jeff Gold's ideas come as a relief. I thought I was the only one who thought > that way. I view every piece of "junk" as a possible candidate for an > enclosure. Here's a challenge. Find some of the Ethernet Baluns made for Jeff also said that he couldn't bring himself to throwing out a potentially useful piece of "junk". If you like to use stuff that people might throw out as junk, you might check out the treatise _The Art & Science of Dumpster Diving_. Lots of details, techniques, examples, & philosophy. :-) :-) :-) I shouldn't :-) to much, since as I type this I am listening to a fine stereo & speakers which came out of a dumpster. If I ever dive again I'll keep my eyes open for QRP rig cases. :-) 73 Drew kb9fko aarnett@prairienet.org From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 19:14:08 1994 Return-Path: From: Bruce Walker id AA02783; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:31:36 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:31:36 EDT Message-Id: <9404141931.AA02783@zarathustra.think.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Permission to publish Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk This is a common subject; we went through it last year, and every once in a while someone asks me privately what the policy on republishing material is. You should get permission of the individuals who originally wrote the material to republish it in another forum. I cannot and will not give permission on behalf of other contributors. Even though people give "blanket permission" to republish things, every once in a while we send out something which we didn't really mean (e.g., a flame), or which contained mistakes which were later pointed out to us. Going to the source of an article for permission shouldn't be hard to do, and it gives the author a chance to ammend or revise the article if he/she so deems. Just send the author email about what you intend to do. I'm sure most of us would be flattered that others would be interested in what we write. --bruce WT1M From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 19:59:39 1994 Return-Path: id AA26272; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:45:28 -0400 id AA29768; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:48:03 EDT id AA02522; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:48:01 EDT Message-Id: <9404141948.AA02522@kaos.ksr.com> To: jfw@ksr.com Cc: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: [kaul@nbc.ge.com: your note to internet] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:16:03 EDT." <9404141416.AA17730@kaos.ksr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:48:00 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk If anyone wishes to republish my message about republishing messages, > Technically, anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give ^ please correct this typo first :-). (ouch!) > prefer the opportunity to correct speeling misteaks grammatical and errors. (But not these, they were deliberate.) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 21:19:24 1994 Return-Path: id AA28274; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:27:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:27:03 -0700 Message-Id: <9404142127.AA28274@eagle.is.lmsc.lockheed.com> From: ames@force.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM To: "QRP@Think.COM"@EAGLE.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM Subject: publishable Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk RE:anything someone rights is not republishable unless they give explicit permission. Cancel freedom of the press! Nothing is protected unless specifically copywrited which involves sending a copy to the Library of Congress and paying the bucks for them to register it. You must be dreaming that there anything protected about a posting on Internet. This stuff can be forwarded all over the world with the flick of a finger. Does anyone think they could sue someone for copying a posting on Internet and putting it in a publication? I must be living in a different world. 73, alan N2ALE From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 21:37:44 1994 Return-Path: id AA14061; Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:10:45 CDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 17:10:45 CDT From: msdooley@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (Michael S. Dooley) Message-Id: <9404142210.AA14061@aud.alcatel.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: permission to publish Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I believe there was a thread on this subject last year. Seems someone gave an opinion and was quoted and it got back to them via their work... Kinda like they were speaking as a representative of their company versus a personal opinion. I guess that's why some people have "sig" files that say their opinions are their own. I think you shuld get their permission before you publish what someone says. What they said may have been stated looking at a limited audience (ie QRP@THINK.COM), not the world. Mike Dooley KE4PC msdooley@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com ... just my opinion, folks, I don't speak for the company. ;-) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 22:26:59 1994 Return-Path: id AA13287; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:20:32 PDT id AA09711; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:30 -0700 id AA29782; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:19:27 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:17:04 PDT Reply-To: GroverC@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com (Grover Cleveland) From: GroverC@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com (Grover Cleveland) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: What gives with the Digest? Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk So I'm not getting any Digest, just the TofC. Is this happening to everyone.? Grover WT6P From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 14 22:37:53 1994 Return-Path: id AB15930; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:28:44 -0400 id AA25170; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:28:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: howie cahn Subject: Re: [kaul@nbc.ge.com: your note to internet] To: "John F. Woods" Cc: QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404141416.AA17730@kaos.ksr.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, John F. Woods wrote: [stuff deleted] > > As to why someone might be willing to have the 300 people on QRP@think.com > read something but not the 400 extra readers of QRPp: email tends to be thought > of as an evanescent phenomenon (even though many mailing lists are archived), > but a magazine is quite obviously reasonably permanent; one might say things > on a mailing list that one would rather not be reminded of 10 years from now > when someone leafs through their back issues of a magazine. > If ten years from now the most I have to be embarrassed about is what I said about QRP operating now, I'll be doing pretty good. This isn't one of the personals or sex groups. > Furthermore, if blanket permission is assumed for QRPp, what stops someone > else from gathering all the interesting comments from the mailing list, > removing the attributions, and publishing them in a book as supposedly > original work? This is true whether or not permission is granted. Even if there's no implicit authorization, someone can do that. It's plagiarism either way and it's been a problem since at least Guttenburg. Actually, I don't don't really have strong feelings what the policy is. I just suggested that the default should be "permission = ON" instead of "permission = OFF" because I didn't think that most people would object and I wanted to make things easy for people like Doug. If I was wrong in this assumption, I withdraw the suggestion. 72/73... howie wb2cpu@world.std.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 00:20:07 1994 Return-Path: id AA16179; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:53:16 HST id AA08555; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:53:04 HST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:53:04 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: Andrew Arnett Subject: Re: QRP Cases & junk scrounging In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:12:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: QRP@Think.COM Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hey! I thought *I* invented ``dumpster diving''! My two favorite spots to dumpster dive are here on campus (especially behind the engineering department building and the CS department - I've got a lifetime supply of 2N2222 x-sistors, resistors, capacitors thanks to CS), and in the harbor (Ala Wai Yacht Harbor): TV sets, radios of all types including a marine band VHF transceiver, telephones (just found a nice cordless one - the following weekend I found a touchtone phone); just this last weekend I found an RDF (radio direction finding receiver). You folks who live near a harbor: GET GOING! Yacht owners throw out the greatest electronic goodies. I guess the QRP philosophy goes hand-in-hand with dumpster diving... 73, Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 01:43:39 1994 Return-Path: id AA20275; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:19:26 HST id AA10025; Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:19:14 HST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 16:19:14 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: ames@force.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM Subject: Re: publishable In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:27:03 -0700 Cc: QRP@Think.COM Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk No no no! You can copyright everything and anything you want without notifying the Library of Congress. We have been made very aware of this here at my university. All you have to do is affix the following: Copyright C 1994 by Jeffrey Herman All rights reserved That's is. I just copyrighted this article. No further action is necessary. But, it helps in enforcing the legality of your copyright if do notify the L. of C., although your material is protected by law just as well if you don't. Oh, the C is supposed to have a circle around it. 73, Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 02:51:09 1994 Return-Path: <01HB6M7PKZ989I5USY@delphi.com>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:45:58 EDT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:45:58 -0400 (EDT) From: N8ET@delphi.com Subject: What happened to Chuck?? To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HB6M7PKZ9A9I5USY@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"qrp@think.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him since the middle of the QSO party, and he is usually god for two or three a day. Was the contest too much for him, or did he drink too much diet coke at the party he went to Saturday nite?? Chuck - if you're around - hope all is ok! 73/72 - Bill - N8ET From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 09:39:49 1994 Return-Path: id AA12600; Fri, 15 Apr 94 08:53:44 -0400 (from sct@pop.cwru.edu for qrp@think.com) Message-Id: <9404151253.AA12600@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu> From: Stephen Trier Date: 15 Apr 1994 12:53:38 GMT To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: publishable In-Reply-To: ames@force.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:27:03 -0700 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Look, guys, copyright law has changed a lot. At various times it has been required, and then not required, to send two copies to the Patent Office, which copies were forwarded to the Library of Congress. Now that the U.S. has signed the Berne Convention, there is probably an implicit copyright on anything you write, but there might not be. The Convention also altered the length of time copyrights are active in the U.S. If you care about whether something you write is copyrighted or not, PLEASE don't believe anything you read on the net (including me). Get a recent book on the subject from the library or talk to a lawyer. If you care whether something someone else wrote is copyrighted, it is always safe to ask them. If you want to know if you can publish it, again, it would be safe to ask them. The worst they can do is say "no". Even if something is copyrighted, "fair use" may permit you to quote portions without permission. However, it's a nice courtesy to ask the person for permission anyway. I've been quoted both with and without permission, and I must say it's nice to be able to double-check my words before they are republished. It may not be mandatory for the editor to do this, but I think it's a very nice courtesy. Now, back to the QRP stuff with a total beginner's question: I'm trying to get into homebrew QRP. I have an electronics background but little ham radio experience. I live in an apartment which means limited antenna possibilities. An antenna for 80m, for example, would be difficult. What's a reasonable band to try? 40m or 20m seem reasonable. Is 40m likely to get too noisy for QRP this summer? I guess what I'm asking is this: Is there any band that a beginning homebrew indoor-antenna QRPer should definitely _avoid_ for summer operating? :-) Stephen KB8PWA/AA -- Stephen Trier sct@po.cwru.edu KB8PWA From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 11:36:38 1994 Return-Path: id AA02944; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:29:28 -0700 Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:29:27 -0700 Posted: Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:06:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:58:01 -0700 From: "CHESTER BOWLES" Message-Id: <15803151404991/677661@AIMHI> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Publishable 1 Msg-Class: ALL-IN-1 IOS Server for VMS V3.0 PBL123A (US) ENGLISH 21-MAR-1992 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk [This message is converted from WPS-PLUS to ASCII] >>Nothing is protected unless specifically copywrited which involves >>sending a copy to the Library of Congress and paying the bucks for >>them to register it. Huh???? I've done a fair amount of free-lance writing. What I write is mine unless I give you explicit, written, permission to use it. All I have to do is prove that *I* wrote it and *when* it was written. That can be done in a number of ways, but anything that provides a date stamp (like E-MAIL) should be sufficient. Putting the little c helps, but is actually not required. Chet, AA1EX From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 12:31:27 1994 Return-Path: id AA22772; Fri, 15 Apr 94 06:51:22 -0700 id AA07864; Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:49:32 -0400 Message-Id: <9404151349.AA07864@dwcu03.nyo.dec.com> To: hardie@herald.usask.ca Cc: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: Contests & Lessons In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:41:05 -0400. Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:49:28 EDT From: comas@dwcu03.nyo.dec.com Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > I had to re-enter them after the contest because the computer lost them. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>Please, let's be serious a moment. You didn't test your LogicIII setup >>properly before the contest. No, It was tested. I just missed a test case scenario which is quite common in all types of manufacture we as humans do. I found a bug in the scoring of the contest report, not the logging of the contest numbers. When I fixed the report I mistakenly thought the data would not be touched. It was. My mistake was not making a backup before making changes. If I had make a backup, I would have restored the lost data. That was the lesson I learned. >>Anyway, who's got the time to do both in a >>contest like the party last weekend? :-) I work, by copying on paper the exchange, and then typing it into the computer after I press my "Super CMOS II" keyer button which has the pre-programmed part of my exchange. >>Why have the computer? Because it catches dups a lot faster then I would; makes contest reporting and qsl'ing much easier. I enjoy contesting, (OK I'll admit it, computers too) and receiving qsl cards, not filling them out & contest paper work. But that's me, and that's what makes this a great hobby, it's really a lot of hobbies, rolled up under one. 73s andrew KF2JH and yes we'll get each other on the next one. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 13:44:39 1994 Return-Path: id AA01271; Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:41:40 -0500 via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940415093736.544; 15 Apr 94 09:41:04 +0500 Message-Id: From: "Evert Halbach" Organization: Nicholls State University To: QRP@Think.COM Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:37:30 CST Subject: TOROIDS Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me what is the inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14 turns of #26 enamel wire??? Tnx 73's Evert WA5OJI From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 14:04:48 1994 Return-Path: <01HB77AIJZYUFS6N70@tntech.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:51:44 CDT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:51:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "JEFF M. GOLD" Subject: special events To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HB77AIJZYWFS6N70@tntech.edu> X-Vms-To: QRP X-Vms-Cc: JMG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk All, Looks like the QRP Special Events/expedition is going to start with quite an adventure. I have one car packed already.. and I mean completely packed trunk and back seat... lots of stuff... thought qrp was small and light HI HI well we are having severe weather here.. electricity just went off.. should be fun getting the antennas up in lightning storm.. leaving to set up in about 2 hours...hope to test the station late afternoon .. early pm. look for us 72 Jeff, AC4HF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 14:15:17 1994 Return-Path: id AA03802; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:31:12 -0400 id AA00278; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:33:48 EDT id AA19771; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:33:28 EDT Message-Id: <9404151433.AA19771@kaos.ksr.com> To: ames@force.decnet.lockheed.com Cc: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: publishable In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:27:03 PDT." <9404142127.AA28274@eagle.is.lmsc.lockheed.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:33:28 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Nothing is protected unless specifically > copywrited which involves sending a copy to the Library of Congress and > paying the bucks for them to register it. I know this is off topic, but: the above statement is false in any country which is a signatory to the Berne convention. The US signed the Berne convention in the mid 80's. Everything you write is copyright (that's "right", as in "right to copy", not "write" as scribbling). Registration is only necessary to obtain statutory damages (as opposed to actual damages) in a lawsuit. > You must be dreaming that there > anything protected about a posting on Internet. This stuff can be forwarded > all over the world with the flick of a finger. This is true, to the same extent that when you leave work tonight, someone could cave your head in with a lead pipe in the parking lot and steal your car. From this, we cannot conclude that this is either legal or proper. > Does anyone think they could > sue someone for copying a posting on Internet and putting it in a > publication? It certainly wouldn't be an open and shut case, due to the uncontrolled extent of copying necessarily authorized by the nature of netnews, but there's no reason obvious to legal scholars to believe that it would be impossible to do so. > I must be living in a different world. You are living in a world where people have so little regard for others that they gladly take the fruits of others' labors without regards to their desires. Unfortunately, that's not a different world from the one inhabited by "us", but that doesn't mean we have to like it or behave that way. John, WB7EEL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 14:28:24 1994 Return-Path: (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwlta15685; Fri, 15 Apr 94 10:43:03 -0400 ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:43:03 -0400 id AA10654; Fri, 15 Apr 94 08:55:17 EST From: jpo@acd4.acd.com ( Jim Osburn ) Message-Id: <9404151355.AA10654@IEDV5.acd.com> Subject: QRP Enclosures To: qrp@Think.COM (QRP Mailing List) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 8:55:16 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I have been known to use plastic index card boxes and plastic pencil boxes as QRP enclosures. The plastic pencil boxes can come in some unusual colors, such as orange and purple, but I prefer the black ones. Many times there is a picture of Mickey stuck to the top, but he peels off easily. I will build an ugly circuit on a piece of PCB, then glue the PCB into the pencil box. Before I glue in the PCB, I of course punch some holes in the box for switches, knobs, connectors, etc.. It's a lot easier to punch holes in plastic than it is metal. Sometimes all it takes is the skillfull use of a razor knife. The plastic index card boxes are good enclosures too. If you lay the index card box on it's side, you can use the top as a front panel with a natural slope. I built a field strength meter in one that way. Some people didn't recognize the enclosure as an index card box until I told them. I prefer the brown colored boxes but white, gray, yellow and green are also available. The pencil boxes make good battery pack boxes too. All of these boxes open very easily for service, adjustment or battery changing. Index card boxes used to be metal, but I haven't seen any of those in years. I once considered a metal recipe box I saw in the store, but it was too expensive. All of these things go on sale from time to time. That's when you can stock up for reasonable prices. 73, Jim, WD9EYB From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 14:51:31 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id JAA08768; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:56:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199404151456.JAA08768@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> From: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: publishable To: sct@po.cwru.edu (Stephen Trier) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 09:56:53 -0500 (EST) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404151253.AA12600@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu> from "Stephen Trier" at Apr 15, 94 12:53:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1565 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > > Look, guys, copyright law has changed a lot. At various times it has > been required, and then not required, to send two copies to the Patent > Office, which copies were forwarded to the Library of Congress. Now > that the U.S. has signed the Berne Convention, there is probably an > implicit copyright on anything you write, but there might not be. > The Convention also altered the length of time copyrights are active in > the U.S. Last summer, I wrote for the copyright paperwork for some stuff I was writing. As *I* understood what the stuff was saying (disclaimer - I do not *claim* to be a copyright law expert), you are covered if you do the: Copyright C(in a circle) 1994 Duane P. Mantick all rights reserved ....or something like that. BUT - you will be MORE covered if you DO send in the paperwork, fees and copies. If I could find all that crap I'd post some of the material back here to the group, but quite honestly, I don't know where it all is right now......duh. > > If you care about whether something you write is copyrighted or not, > PLEASE don't believe anything you read on the net (including me). Get > a recent book on the subject from the library or talk to a lawyer. This seems like sound advice. > > > Even if something is copyrighted, "fair use" may permit you to quote > portions without permission. However, it's a nice courtesy to ask the > person for permission anyway. I've been quoted both with and without Not only is it a nice courtesy, it could also keep your cookies out of the fire later. Duane From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 15:29:52 1994 Return-Path: id AA05391; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:02:21 -0600 for qrp@think.com Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:02:20 -0600 (CST) From: Peter Hardie Subject: Re: publishable To: qrp mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote: > No no no! You can copyright everything and anything you want without > notifying the Library of Congress. Exactly right - providing you wrote the original :-) > That's i[t]. I just copyrighted this article. No further action is > necessary. > But, it helps in enforcing the legality of your copyright if do notify > the L. of C., although your material is protected by law just as well > if you don't. This means you don't need to notify L. of C. - which is just as well because I fail to see how I, as a Canadian, should have to notify L. of C. of anything just to be able to enforce a copyright. Pete ve5va.qrp@usask.ca (The above missive contains my own off-the-top-of-my-head uncopyrighted opinion. Do not fold, spindle or mutilate. Removal of this disclaimer before reading can result in severe penalties) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 18:44:36 1994 Return-Path: id AA08735 for qrp@think.com; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:26:57 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0prrba-000B8DC; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:23 EDT id AA109824 ; Fri, 15 Apr 94 13:22:46 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:11:23 GMT Message-Id: <17198@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: boatanchors@gnu.ai.mit.edu, QRP@Think.COM Subject: Reprinting Postings Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week. I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any responses in the First Amendment. I really don't care to discuss this, either privately or on the mailing lists. It doesn't belong on the mailing lists anyway. Note: My actions here are not taken on account of any policy, written or otherwise, formulated by my employer. They are my own, just like my words. If you have the opportunity to see material written on Internet, you obviously have the opportunity to request permission via the same route. I don't care what anyone else does or thinks. If I see anything of mine in a newsletter and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here. 73 Jim Kearman, KR1S jkearman@arrl.org From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 19:08:54 1994 Return-Path: id AA23952; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:27:15 -0700 Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:27:15 -0700 Posted: Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:42:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 17:00:01 -0700 From: "CHESTER BOWLES" Message-Id: <74257151404991/678463@AIMHI> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: QRP AFIELD--1994 1 Msg-Class: ALL-IN-1 IOS Server for VMS V3.0 PBL123A (US) ENGLISH 21-MAR-1992 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk [This message is converted from WPS-PLUS to ASCII] Well, you've heard some "teasers" about the planned QRP-NE contest. Jim, W1FMR, will be doing an official announcement at Dayton and he'll also have copies of the rules and entry forms. Once he gets back from Dayton, we will publish the rules and entry form here as well. However, I thought you would all be interested, so here's a little more information to whet your appetite. The event will be called QRP AFIELD-1994. It is sponsored by the QRP Club of New England and is designed to encourage QRP enthusiasts to field-test their radio equipment using temporary antennas and non-commercial power sources. Mark your calendars for Saturday, September 17, 1994. The contest is short--only six hours from 1600Z to 2200Z--but it should be fun and propogation is *guaranteed* to be good on all the bands. So start scouting out your favorite "field" location now. For example, you'll find me on the top of the 2200 foot mountain behind my house :-) Chet, AA1EX From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 19:41:57 1994 Return-Path: id AA06996; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:40:32 -0400 id AA02339; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:43:09 EDT id AA00911; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:43:07 EDT Message-Id: <9404151843.AA00911@kaos.ksr.com> To: "Evert Halbach" Cc: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: TOROIDS In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 15 Apr 94 09:37:30 CST." Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:43:07 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Can anyone tell me what is the inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14 > turns of #26 enamel wire??? My office used to contain two or three copies of Amidon's extremely helpful toroid literature, but I can't find any of them. (Hint to everyone: you want their toroid literature :-). But I do have a '92 Handbook, which asserts that for T-50-2, A-sub-L is 49 uH per 100 turns (page 2-34); the general inductance formula for toroids is turns = 100 SQRT( L / A-sub-L ) (L is the desired inductance in microhenries). Of course, you know the turns and need to solve for L, so it's L = t^2 A(L) / 10000 or .94uH. 73, John, WB7EEL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 19:44:34 1994 Return-Path: id AA01431; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:39:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:39:11 -0700 Message-Id: <9404151839.AA01431@eagle.is.lmsc.lockheed.com> From: ames@force.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM To: "qrp@Think.COM"@EAGLE.DECNET.LOCKHEED.COM Subject: re: publishable Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Cancel freedom of the press! Nothing is protected unless... Well, there is NO agreement from anyone on my comments. The running opinion is that I am flat out wrong - incorrect - misguided - etc. If you agree with my comment, please be advised that no one else does. This is a public service message, and not copyrighted. 73, alan N2ALE From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 19:53:38 1994 Return-Path: id AA17149; Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:49:12 -0700 Message-Id: <9404151943.AA02681@itgmsm> From: laurahal@microsoft.com To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: permission to publish Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:37:00 PDT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk If anybody on the list thinks what I write is worth publishing, you are hereby free to do so. If you can actually make money with what I'm giving away for free, more power to you. Proper credit is always nice, as is a note letting me know what magazine or newsletter to look in. 73 from Burnaby, laura VE7LDH From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 20:41:04 1994 Return-Path: id AA12636; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:05:52 EDT From: nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu Message-Id: <9404152005.AA12636@cc00du.unity.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: Reprinting Postings...goodbye To: boatanchors@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <17198@jek> from "Jim Kearman" at Apr 15, 94 05:11:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23b2/POP] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1284 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a > friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in > which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to > see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week.... > I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP > newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for > and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away > for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't > need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you > can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a > little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any > responses in the First Amendment..... >.......stuff deleted.... > ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter > and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here. > > 73 > > Jim Kearman, KR1S > jkearman@arrl.org I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment... Good-bye, Jim. :^) 73, Steve Modena nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu P.S. Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances? From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 20:51:44 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA06752; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:06:53 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA12794; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:06:45 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:CS-ERH@nich-nsunet.nich.edu id AA02512; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:06:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:06:43 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404152106.AA02512@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: "Evert Halbach" Subject: Re: TOROIDS Cc: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The inductance of a T-50-2 toroid with 14 turns of #26 enamel wire is 0.96 microhenries. dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 20:58:31 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA09173; Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:19:28 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA12825; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:19:23 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA02548; Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:19:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:19:21 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404152119.AA02548@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: last posting Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I do know English. Excuse the spelling and use of the even wrong words. I know better. It must be jet lag. :-) copyright 1994 :-) Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 22:08:51 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404151551.AA05224@ig1.att.att.com> From: mvjf@mvubr.att.com (James M Fitton +1 508 960 2577) Date: 15 Apr 94 15:50:00 GMT Original-From: mvubr!mvjf (James M Fitton +1 508 960 2577) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: QRP-NE Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, Here is the index for the April issue of QRP-NE Newsletter "72" Meeting Minutes - W1FMR QRP-NE Homebrew Project - 40/40 Superhet rig - NN1G A Lesson in Kit Building Part 1 - KA0IQT In A Word - K1LGQ News From All Over - NT1R Internet Anyone ? - AA1EX Ten Parts or Less - NH6IL Radiokit Review - W1AAZ The QRP Plus Review - KF2JH North West QRP Contest QRP-NE Membership List 40/40 Kit purchasers list - W1CFI Charts & Graphs - K1LGQ I just saw the draft of the final copy and realize that not all permissions have been requested from Inet members. Please excuse my late requests...... I will make them to the individuals concerned and keep my fingers crossed..... 72 Jim W1FMR Leave Sept. 17 open for the first ever, QRP Field Day type contest. Chet, AA1EX is spearheading this very exciting event and an announcement will be made before Dayton. Details also to appear in June issue of QRP-NE "72". h From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 22:47:44 1994 Return-Path: id AA21345; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:34:57 HST id AA25036; Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:35:08 HST Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:35:08 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: QRP@Think.COM, boatanchors@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: help me Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, I just received notice from someone in Scottsdale Arizona that someone else is using my callsign and sending `obscene CW messages' on 40M. Have any of you copied any such transmissions? The date and time was 0200 12 April. Please help me in this matter. 73, Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 23:38:05 1994 Return-Path: id AA16394 for qrp@think.com; Fri, 15 Apr 94 19:18:46 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0prtNc-000B8XC; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:16 EDT id AA110227 ; Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:17:04 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 19:10:45 GMT Message-Id: <17278@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: QRP@Think.COM, CS-ERH@nich-nsunet.nich.edu Subject: Re: TOROIDS Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Evert, WA5OJI, asked the inductance of 14 turns on a T-50-2 core. Looks like about 1.2 microhenries to me. The ARRL Databook contains tables that will help you calculate turns-vs-inductance. 72 Jim, KR1S From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 15 23:38:26 1994 Return-Path: id AA17411 for qrp@think.com; Fri, 15 Apr 94 19:41:09 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0prXBa-000B6ZC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 15:34 EDT id AA108506 ; Thu, 14 Apr 94 14:22:18 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 19:27:54 GMT Message-Id: <17038@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: RS DSP II Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The Radio Shack DSP Filter is brand new and not in the 1994 catalog. 73 Jim From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sat Apr 16 12:59:09 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for qrp@think.com); Sat, 16 Apr 1994 09:56:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 09:56:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199404161356.AA07083@yfn.ysu.edu> From: ak238@yfn.ysu.edu (Keith M. Hamilton) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: MFJ 9040 Reply-To: ak238@yfn.ysu.edu Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I know we would all like to solve the problems of the world, but could we do it somewhere else? I read this group for elecrtronic and radio information. Take the other discussions elsewhere please. Now ----- I had a chance to see a MFJ-9040 recently and I was VERY impressed. I am considering buying one at Dayton. Lets herar your comments pro and con about this rig -- seems like the best rig for the money out there to me. Am I right or wrong? -- Keith M. Hamilton 73 de NO8Z ak238@yfn.ysu.edu Youngstown, Ohio From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sat Apr 16 14:07:06 1994 Return-Path: by tso.uc.edu (PIPE/8.6.4/930326.1200) id LAA26571; Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:52:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:52:22 -0400 From: Justin Rains Message-Id: <199404161552.LAA26571@tso.uc.edu> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Trap Dipole need HELP!! Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am interested in building a trap dipole for 10,15,20m. my question is this--> How do I make the first trap resonate for both 15 & 20m?? I understand how to make a 2 band dipole with traps, but the third band confuses me. Also, what type of capacitator should I use? I've heard of transmitting caps, but do I need them for QRP work? Thanks for the help... 73--> Justin AA9KM From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sat Apr 16 14:37:29 1994 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 10:59:33 -0500 (CDT) From: James Speer To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: F_SPEERJR@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU Message-Id: <940416105933.30c16c87@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU> Subject: hello, Jim Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Jim wrote: >> >> Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a >> friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in >> which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to >> see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week.... >> I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP >> newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for >> and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away >> for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't >> need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you >> can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a >> little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any >> responses in the First Amendment..... >>.......stuff deleted.... >> ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter >> and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here. >> >> 73 >> >> Jim Kearman, KR1S >> jkearman@arrl.org Steve responded: >I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster >board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment... > >Good-bye, Jim. :^) > >73, > >Steve Modena nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu > >P.S. >Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted >materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances? I now respond: 1. As Steve may not have noticed, Jim works for ARRL. What he says may be mistaken for official positions of the organization. For this reason, his employers have expressed concern in the past about his participation in public forums like this. Widespread dissemination of his informal comments, if those comments were misunderstood, might have very serious consequences for Jim. I, for one, value Jim's contributions to this group and intend to continue to treat Jim's contributions as I would those of any friend I was having an informal chat with: Not secret, but not intended, either, for publication on the front page. I happen to know about Jim's situation, but I do not know the situation of most other contributors to this list. Therefore, as a matter of common courtesy, I plan to continue to treat everyone's postings as I do Jim's. 2. We should have learned from the discussion thus far that the copyright laws are complex, and one cannot be sure whether postings to these lists are copyrighted or not. It does not seem to me, however, that that is the issue. I would have thought the issue was a simple one: Would you print a letter a friend wrote you in the newspaper without first getting that friend's permission? If you would not, then I can't imagine how you could bring yourself to do the equivalent with a posting to one of these newsgroups. 3. I hope that if Steve intends to display Jim's note, he will also display with it this one. More formally, I herewith give my permission for MY contribution to this posting (that NOT marhed with ">'s") to be reproduced anywhere, in any form, so long as it remains unchanged. 73, Jim K5YUT From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sat Apr 16 18:49:55 1994 Return-Path: id AA12427; Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:26:33 HST id AA25571; Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:27:02 HST Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:27:02 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: RS trimmer caps Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Copyright c 1994 by Jeffrey Herman All rights reserved! Gang: For some odd reason Radio Shack is discontinuing carrying its mica trimmer caps - the close out price is $1.47. I just bought 6 for future projects. Stock number is 272-1336. 95-420 pf. Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sun Apr 17 03:24:04 1994 Return-Path: id AA22907; Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:21:34 PDT Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:21:34 PDT From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Message-Id: <9404170521.AA22907@deneb.csustan.edu> To: Qrp@Think.COM Subject: NC40 Partial Kits Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The NorCal QRP Club is offering a partial NorCal 40 kit. There were so many requests for NC-40s that we could not fill due to the fact that they were sold out that we have decided to offer partial kits of the hard to get parts and let the builders chase their own parts. NorCal is selling the partial kits which include: pcboard, custom case, standoffs, special screws, MV108 Varactor diode, and the Manual. These are the difficult parts to obtain, and the rest of the parts are available through sources listed in the manual. The cost is $25 and includes shipping and handling for domestic orders. Foreign orders are asked to send $30. California residents must add $1.94 for sales tax. To order, send your check to: Jim Cates, WA6GER 3241 Eastwood Rd. Sacramento, CA 95821 The boards were ordered Friday from Far Circuits, and as soon as Jim gets delivery, he will start shipping orders. Why aren't we doing full kits? Because we are gearing up for the Sierra, our all band kit that will be introduced at Dayton. The brochures go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as soon as I get them back. Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal members. All members (over 450) will receive the brochure. The June issue of QRPp will be 80 pages. A table of contents will be posted soon. 72, Doug, KI6DS From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sun Apr 17 07:52:59 1994 Return-Path: id LAA15584; Sun, 17 Apr 1994 11:06:05 GMT Date: 17 Apr 94 07:02:06 EDT From: "Judy l. Schnabolk" <73043.1704@CompuServe.COM> To: QRP List Cc: Ed Pacyna Subject: QRP Linear Amplifier For Sale Message-Id: <940417110206_73043.1704_GHB2-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk 20 Watt output, low distortion (class AB1) 1.6 to 30Mhz linear (SSB/CW) power amplifier kit from Motorola application note AN-779. The amplifier provides 28dB (+/- 1 dB) of broad band power gain (28 dB is a 630X amplification factor). Full 20W ouput will require 30-40 milliwatts of drive. The basic design uses push pull driver (MRF476 type) and ouput stages (type MRF475 type) and has 50 ohm input / output.. Typical applications might be: 1. Power amp for popular QRP rigs. For example, increasing a 1W radio to 20W will increase your signal by 13dB (little over 2 S units). 2. Add to low power exciter such as the T1 SSB/CW design published in QST by Rick Campbell. The kit includes all new, high quality parts and a double sided PCB as shown in the application note. The price is $95 as a kit or I will assemble and test the board for $135. You provide enclose, 12V power and low pass band filters. I can also provide the following: 12 volt T/R relay for $5, 5 element filter(s) for any band(s) of interest (includes 3 SM capacitors, 2 toroids magnetic wire, design info, ceramic stand-offs for point to point construction) at $5 per band, and a multipole 6+ position ceramic band swithch for $7. This is not a commercial offering and only one kit is available. Replys should be sent to the above email account or ed@auratek.com de, Ed W1AAZ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sun Apr 17 15:20:51 1994 Return-Path: (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0psaxz-00008vC; Sun, 17 Apr 94 10:49 PDT id m0psKQ8-0001YOC; Sat, 16 Apr 94 17:09 PDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: Reprinting Postings To: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 17:09:08 PDT From: Kevin Sanders Cc: boatanchors@gnu.ai.mit.edu, QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <17198@jek>; from "Jim Kearman" at Apr 15, 94 5:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, After Jim's first letter some months ago I was sympathetic to him; it's no fun to get in trouble at work over something not strictly work- related. But I detected a different tone in this letter, one that indicates Jim is not comfortable with the Internet medium. The newsgroups and I would say e-mail lists as well are in the public domain. Because of this, none of us have any control over what someone does with our postings. The other day a friend of mine was showing me a CD-ROM he had bought which had archived postings from the Internet groups. I found some of my own postings on the disk. So it seems someone is profiting from what I wrote, and people outside the Internet community have access to my postings. The key is to avoid writing anything you would not want repeated. I think this is fundamentally why we don't see public figures posting to the forums: anything they say becomes as public as if they had said it at a press conference. If you as an individual or business are not comfortable with this prospect, then perhaps this medium is not for you. Jim, thank you for your many informative posts I have read over the past few years. You will be missed. 73, Kevin KN6FQ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sun Apr 17 16:55:42 1994 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:24:00 GMT From: dick@kanga.demon.co.uk (Dick G0BPS) Reply-To: dick@kanga.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <2672@kanga.demon.co.uk> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: copyright etc X-Mailer: PCElm 1.09 Lines: 17 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Gang, I am surprised at the conflab abt copyright. Surely it is a matter of courtesy to request the permission of an author to reproduce his work. No matter the law or where it appears? I cannot see any difference between a "comment" appearing here, in World Radio, QST etc or any other medium, I must state an interest as I write a monthly QRP column for a British Magazine. I therefor sympathise with Jim..... TTFN -- Dick G0BPS / G0ROO A member of the DRAGON SLAYERS QRP Group Kanga Products (Remember that sometimes the Dragon wins) [ The opinions expressed here are always that of the management, ] [ I am the management!! (especially when she lets me) ] From qrp-admin@Think.COM Sun Apr 17 17:45:35 1994 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 13:58:04 -0600 (MDT) From: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <940417135804.20a027ed@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov> Subject: RS DSP-40 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hello to all. Decided to check out the RS DSP-40 digital signal processor. Picked it up on Friday night, and have been trying to check it out this weekend, despite the ROTTEN CONDX. For those who are interested in more details, the DSP-40 includes a built-in speaker and 5 watt audio amplifier. Three modes are provided, NOISE REDUCTION, SSB, and CW. Each mode has three bandwidths, WIDE, MEDIUM, and NARROW. Advertised filter widths are: NR WIDE 200-2950 NR MED 200-2500 NR NARROW 200-2000 SSB WIDE 300-3000 SSB MED 500-2600 SSB NARROW 800-2000 CW WIDE 270-1230 CW MED 470-1030 CW NARROW 600-900 NR and SSB modes feature automatic notch feature. Tried the DSP with my TT Argosy, but did not see a lot of benefit, but then the Argosy has a crystal CW filter, and a HB op-amp SSB filter. The unit seems to work very well with my Kenwood R-1000, which defenitely needs help on SSB and CW. Immediate application is using the DSP + R-1000 on 160 meters, along with my HB 1.5 watt transmitter. Worked a fellow in SLC Saturday nite, he was weak, and there was a strong stations a couple of kHz below -- could not have made it w/o the DSP. Perhaps the next project will be a VXO TX for 17 meters to use with the R-1000... Part number is 21-543, and price is $80. Others on the list have indicated that each store is supposed to have received one unit. 73, Bill, KR8L/7 From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 03:39:37 1994 Return-Path: id AA23838; Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:05:39 PDT Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:05:39 PDT From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Message-Id: <9404180605.AA23838@deneb.csustan.edu> To: Qrp@Think.COM Subject: June QRPp Table of Contents Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The June QRPp is finished and here is a list of the table of contents. Table of Contents - QRPp June 94 From The Editor, KI6DS 3 Deluxe QRP Station, W6QIF 5 What Test Equipment Do You Need for QRP?, WA6ERB 29 Learning to Design Your Own, KF6VB 30 Low Tech Bells for the NorCal 40, WA6GER 30 Measuring NorCal 40 Output, KI6DS 31 How I Worked DX with the NorCal 40, W1FMR 32 QRP QSO, KB7ZNE 33 Confessions of an Appliance Operator, K6AGN 34 Our NorCal 40 Story, KF8XC 36 Optional Frequency Counter for the NorCal 40, W6QIF 37 Increasing the Output Power of the NorCal 40, KN6VO 42 Making Laminated Panel Overlays, AB6SO 45 QRP Antenna Farm, AA2U 46 General License + NorCal 40 + Hamstick = Hot!, KB7TCY 47 The Zuni Looper M.E.F., A Brief History, N6GA 48 NorCal Meeting Notes for Feb., Mar., & Apr., KI6DS 49 HF Propagation Forecasting, AB6SO 53 NorCal 40 Case Mod, KI6DS 56 NorCal 40 Notes, WW7Y 56 QRP + Bicycle Touring = Fun, KD6JUI 57 A Crystal Filter Design Program Plus Results, N9JZW 58 The MFJ 20 Meter SSB Travel Radio: A Review, AC4HF 62 Spring ARCI QSO Party Results, Various Authors 63 NorCal Partial Kits Available, WA6GER 69 An RF Amp for the NorCal 40, KM6QP 70 The ARCI Spring QSO Party at N8ET, N8ET 71 TidBits, KA7ULD, 72 Extended RIT/XIT for the NorCal 40, WA6HHQ 74 LED S-Meter for the NorCal 40, WA6HHQ 76 Total pages this time is 80 counting the front and back cover. The lead article is the QRP Deluxe Station by W6QIF. This is reprinted WITH permission from the Winter edition of Communications Quarterly, Terry Littlefield, editor, and the author, Jim Pepper, W6QIF. It is the policy of QRPp that no article will be printed without the expressed permission from the author. See you at Dayton. I will have a preview copy at the Hospitality room of ARCI, but the rest will have to wait til they get back from the printers after Dayton. 72, Doug KI6DS From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 13:04:08 1994 Return-Path: id AA20876; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:40:23 -0400 id AA10922; Mon, 18 Apr 94 10:43:04 EDT id AA29256; Mon, 18 Apr 94 10:42:46 EDT Message-Id: <9404181442.AA29256@kaos.ksr.com> To: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Cc: Qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: NC40 Partial Kits In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:21:34 PDT." <9404170521.AA22907@deneb.csustan.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 10:42:45 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > The brochures > go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as > soon as I get them back. I will pitch a tent next to my mailbox. > Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal > members. All members (over 450) will receive the brochure. This, then, is a commemorative kit for senior members of the Quarter Millenium Wireless Association? 73, John, WB7EEL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 14:31:29 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id KAA24574; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:05:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199404181505.KAA24574@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:05:44 -0500 From: Duane P Mantick To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: TTARS expedition Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Did anybody get to work them? I tried on both Saturday and Sunday during the scheduled 10-meter times and the band was just useless. I heard not one signal of anykind, anywhere...... I noted that some rather sever weather had blown through that area during previous days and hoped that the event was not cancelled.... Duane wb9omc From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 17:01:17 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for qrp@think.com); Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:48:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:48:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199404181748.AA27184@firefly.prairienet.org> From: aarnett@prairienet.org (Andrew Arnett) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Hamfest Reply-To: aarnett@prairienet.org Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The Sullivan (IL) hamfest yesterday marks the official start of the hamfest season. The only HF qrp rig I saw which did not cover 27 MHz was an HW-7 with a clean case. I don't think it sold. I picked up a Swan SWR-1A vswr meter. It's dimensions are 2.5x3x5 inches which is much smaller than the one I built. Perfect for portable work. Good luck & happy hamfesting, Drew kb9fko aarnett@prairienet.org From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 18:34:14 1994 Return-Path: id AA17736; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:11:44 -0400 id AA22004; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:07:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:07:17 -0400 Message-Id: <9404181907.AA22004@bunny.gte.com> From: okas_rp%ncsd.dnet@gte.com To: "qrp@think.com"%BUNNY.dnet@gte.com Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All, At the risk of being a "me too" message, I'd like to add my 2 cents. About the only activity I heard on 20m was the W0SHQ special event station. I heard him with his beam and all, but couldn't work him even running QRO into an R5. I heard some activity around 14.250-265, but it was in the noise. Conditions were *really* poor. I understand there was an aurora this weekend, but don't know exactly when it occurred. I was disappointed no one heard my peanut whistle NorCal either this weekend. 72/3 Bob - N3MBY From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 18:44:31 1994 Return-Path: id AA17757; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:13:07 -0400 id AA22062; Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:09:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:09:40 -0400 Message-Id: <9404181909.AA22062@bunny.gte.com> From: okas_rp%ncsd.dnet@gte.com To: "qrp@think.com"%BUNNY.dnet@gte.com Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hello All, At the risk of being a "me too" message, I'd like to add my 2 cents. About the only activity I heard on 20m was the W0SHQ special event station. I heard him with his beam and all, but couldn't work him even running QRO into an R5. I heard some activity around 14.250-265, but it was in the noise. Conditions were *really* poor. I understand there was an aurora this weekend, but don't know exactly when it occurred. I was disappointed no one heard my peanut whistle NorCal either this weekend. 72/3 Bob - N3MBY From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 19:00:20 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404181907.AA28099@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:06:33 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 15:04:26 EDT From: "Ronald D. Rossi" To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: TTARS... Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I tried to find them multiple times/multiple bands to no avail. Bummer! Sorry Jeff. I did hear and TRY and work a Moku Ola Island KH6xx/C1, but I only had 15 mins to spend when they were on. 73 de N1PBT...ron Ron Rossi /====================================================================/ / IBM Microelectronics Internet: rrossi@vnet.ibm.com / / H/P ASIC SRAM Design VNET: RROSSI at BTVLABVM / / Dept N93 Bldg 861-2 Voice: 802/769-7477 / / 1000 River Road RF: N1PBT/AE / / Essex Junction, VT 05452-4299 / / / / "I work for IBM, I don't represent its views!" / / / /====================================================================/ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Mon Apr 18 21:45:00 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id RAA07777; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:00:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199404182200.RAA07777@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:00:41 -0500 From: Duane P Mantick To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: TTARS expedition Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hey guys - next time you want to try this, let me make a suggestion. Drive over to the Great Smoky Mountain National Park and drive up to the Forney Ridge Parking area on Clingman's Dome. C.D. itself is the highest point in the park, and the second highest mountain in the eastern US. The summit is something like 6643 feet, with the parking area maybe around 6400 or thereabouts. Primarily, the parking area faces south and southeast if memory serves correctly, but on the longer wavelengths it may not matter too much. If you are gutsy, you can cart your battery operated stuff up to the summit and run from there. I've been up there even during rotten band conditions (on 10 meters, for example, last August) and been able to work into South America on my HR2510 (seems to peak about 10 watts for SSB work). If you catch the band right, you can kick butt from up there, even on *2* meters. There are campgrounds in the area so if you like camping while in the process of your QRP work, you can do it there. With even mediocre band conditions, you ought to be able to work just about everywhere from that site on SOME band or another. A 6000+ foot tower under you can really make a difference! :-) Duane wb9omc From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 00:34:16 1994 Return-Path: id AA22465; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:52:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:52:50 -0400 From: djwang@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu Message-Id: <9404190052.AA22465@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: RE: NC40 Partial Kits Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, I am new to this group and Ham Radio (got my ticket a week ago). I am interested in qrp homebrewing. This NorCal 40 kit seems to be very popular here. Can somebody posted some info here or E-mail to me please? I would like to find out things like DC/superhet?, Xtal filter?, CW/SSB? ...etc. I really have no idea about the kit. Info on other kits are also appreciated. Thanks. 73 DE N2YKP/AA D. J. Wang ******************************************************************************** * Metabolic Magnetic Resonance Internet: djwang@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu * * Research & Computing Center RF: N2YKP/AA * * University of Pennsylvania Twisted Pair: (215)898-9357 * * Radiology Department * * Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 * ******************************************************************************** From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 02:09:33 1994 Return-Path: (16.6/15.5+MGC-TD 2.20) id AA16680; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:15:56 -0700 (15.11.1.6/15.5+MGC-TD 2.08) id AA02519; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:15:54 -0700 Message-Id: <9404190015.AA02519@rainbow.mentorg.com> Date: 17 Apr 1994 03:59:27 -0800 From: "PDXML1" Subject: UNDELIVERED: Readdress and To: QRP-Digest@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Mail*Link(r) SMTP QRP Digest V0 #69 (15.11.1.6/15.5+MGC-TD 2.08) id AA21060; Sun, 17 Apr 94 03:56:29 -0700 (16.6/15.5+MGC-TD 2.20) id AA27956; Sun, 17 Apr 94 03:56:26 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 04:44:42 -0400 Message-Id: <9404170844.AA13547@mail.think.com> From: QRP-Admin@Think.COM To: QRP-Digest@Think.COM Subject: QRP Digest V0 #69 Reply-To: QRP@Think.COM Errors-To: QRP-Admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk QRP Digest Sunday, 17 April 1994 Volume 00 : Number 069 In this issue: MFJ 9040 Trap Dipole need HELP!! hello, Jim RS trimmer caps NC40 Partial Kits To subscribe to QRP-Digest, send the command: subscribe QRP-Digest In the body of a message to "Majordomo@Think.COM". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-QRP": subscribe QRP-Digest local-QRP@your.domain.net To remove yourself from the distribution, substitute "unsubscribe" for "subscribe" in the above examples. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "QRP-digest" in the commands above with "QRP". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ak238@yfn.ysu.edu (Keith M. Hamilton) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 09:56:08 -0400 Subject: MFJ 9040 I know we would all like to solve the problems of the world, but could we do it somewhere else? I read this group for elecrtronic and radio information. Take the other discussions elsewhere please. Now ----- I had a chance to see a MFJ-9040 recently and I was VERY impressed. I am considering buying one at Dayton. Lets herar your comments pro and con about this rig -- seems like the best rig for the money out there to me. Am I right or wrong? - -- Keith M. Hamilton 73 de NO8Z ak238@yfn.ysu.edu Youngstown, Ohio ------------------------------ From: Justin Rains Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:52:22 -0400 Subject: Trap Dipole need HELP!! I am interested in building a trap dipole for 10,15,20m. my question is this--> How do I make the first trap resonate for both 15 & 20m?? I understand how to make a 2 band dipole with traps, but the third band confuses me. Also, what type of capacitator should I use? I've heard of transmitting caps, but do I need them for QRP work? Thanks for the help... 73--> Justin AA9KM ------------------------------ From: James Speer Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 10:59:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: hello, Jim Jim wrote: >> >> Gentlemen and Ladies: I like to think of these newsgroups as a >> friendly place to get away from the ratrace of amateur radio in >> which I work. When I go to the local gin mill, I don't expect to >> see anything I say show up in the Newington Town Crier next week.... >> I don't expect to see anything I say here show up in any QRP >> newsletters or any other media, either, unless you have asked for >> and received my permission. It's happened once and I went away >> for a while. If it happens again I'm going away for good. I don't >> need the trouble. If you are the editor of a newsletter and you >> can't give me the courtesy of asking first, you need to learn a >> little about the writing game. And please don't cloak any >> responses in the First Amendment..... >>.......stuff deleted.... >> ...... If I see anything of mine in a newsletter >> and prior permission wasn't granted, I'm outta here. >> >> 73 >> >> Jim Kearman, KR1S >> jkearman@arrl.org Steve responded: >I'm going to "publish" the above "open letter / threat" on a poster >board at my RARS-fest table this Sunday and solict comment... > >Good-bye, Jim. :^) > >73, > >Steve Modena nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu > >P.S. >Are postings to the boatanchor list and the qrp list copyrighted >materials...or strictly confidential, non-disclosure utterances? I now respond: 1. As Steve may not have noticed, Jim works for ARRL. What he says may be mistaken for official positions of the organization. For this reason, his employers have expressed concern in the past about his participation in public forums like this. Widespread dissemination of his informal comments, if those comments were misunderstood, might have very serious consequences for Jim. I, for one, value Jim's contributions to this group and intend to continue to treat Jim's contributions as I would those of any friend I was having an informal chat with: Not secret, but not intended, either, for publication on the front page. I happen to know about Jim's situation, but I do not know the situation of most other contributors to this list. Therefore, as a matter of common courtesy, I plan to continue to treat everyone's postings as I do Jim's. 2. We should have learned from the discussion thus far that the copyright laws are complex, and one cannot be sure whether postings to these lists are copyrighted or not. It does not seem to me, however, that that is the issue. I would have thought the issue was a simple one: Would you print a letter a friend wrote you in the newspaper without first getting that friend's permission? If you would not, then I can't imagine how you could bring yourself to do the equivalent with a posting to one of these newsgroups. 3. I hope that if Steve intends to display Jim's note, he will also display with it this one. More formally, I herewith give my permission for MY contribution to this posting (that NOT marhed with ">'s") to be reproduced anywhere, in any form, so long as it remains unchanged. 73, Jim K5YUT ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Herman Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 11:27:02 HST Subject: RS trimmer caps Copyright c 1994 by Jeffrey Herman All rights reserved! Gang: For some odd reason Radio Shack is discontinuing carrying its mica trimmer caps - the close out price is $1.47. I just bought 6 for future projects. Stock number is 272-1336. 95-420 pf. Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 22:21:34 PDT Subject: NC40 Partial Kits The NorCal QRP Club is offering a partial NorCal 40 kit. There were so many requests for NC-40s that we could not fill due to the fact that they were sold out that we have decided to offer partial kits of the hard to get parts and let the builders chase their own parts. NorCal is selling the partial kits which include: pcboard, custom case, standoffs, special screws, MV108 Varactor diode, and the Manual. These are the difficult parts to obtain, and the rest of the parts are available through sources listed in the manual. The cost is $25 and includes shipping and handling for domestic orders. Foreign orders are asked to send $30. California residents must add $1.94 for sales tax. To order, send your check to: Jim Cates, WA6GER 3241 Eastwood Rd. Sacramento, CA 95821 The boards were ordered Friday from Far Circuits, and as soon as Jim gets delivery, he will start shipping orders. Why aren't we doing full kits? Because we are gearing up for the Sierra, our all band kit that will be introduced at Dayton. The brochures go to the printers this week, and will be mailed out "first class mail" as soon as I get them back. Remember, the Sierra will only be sold to NorCal members. All members (over 450) will receive the brochure. The June issue of QRPp will be 80 pages. A table of contents will be posted soon. 72, Doug, KI6DS ------------------------------ End of QRP Digest V0 #69 ************************ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 02:15:57 1994 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 22:38:39 -0400 (EDT) From: SYJERRY@duq3.cc.duq.edu To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <940418223839.20cc0@duq3.cc.duq.edu> Subject: QRP kit question Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am interested in getting into QRP, I have read reviews, etc from this mailing list and have a few questions I hope you folks can answer. If I only have one band to choose, which band should I get, 40 meter ? I currently have 5wpm only, but have already passed Element 3B and 4A and working on 13wpm. Also, what is involved in building a kit ? do I need to have equipment for alignment and testing ? or all I have to do is solder all the parts to the PCB ? I have a EE background, done kit assembly before, but non in analog electronics, I have no oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, freq counter etc to use to test the assembled kit. besides the QRP kit, what else do I need to have a complete system ? I suppose an antenna, electronic keyer (?), paddle, what else ? I read Jeff Gold's article in a New Ham Companion and he mentioned a homebrew helical type antenna, Jeff, do you have the instructions on how to build one of those ? I am currently on budget and hope not to exceed $100 for the complete rig. Is this a realistic number ? if not, how much should I expect to spend ? Jerry N3RKD From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 03:32:52 1994 Return-Path: 18 Apr 94 21:30 PDT To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: TTARS expedition In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:00:41 CDT." <199404182200.RAA07777@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:30:46 -0700 From: Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG Message-Id: <9404182130.aa05540@paris.ics.uci.edu> Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Well, just a quick comment Duane.... Did you listen to the bands this weekend? I do believe it would have made no difference to the expedition to be up there, since several KW stations with multi element beams couldn't get any signals through anywhere. In fact, I listened for Radio Nigeria at 7255 all night and could barely hear the carrier! Amazing. The worst propogation I have heard in years, one of the worst in 25 years of hamming. Anyway, your suggested location sounds real good, though such height has seemed to me (in my varied experience with QRP portable) to have very little effect at HF frequencies, even 10 meters. Now, up higher where you depend upon line of sight! Yikes, there is a difference! I have found that as long as I have an antenna in the clear and am not hemmed in by metallic structures or mountains, I do quite as well as up on top of mountains...... of course, hard to get a real comparison. 72 all Clark WA3JPG Building up a tiny station for my long hike this summer :-) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 11:20:34 1994 Return-Path: id GAA25902; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 06:43:05 -0700 id AA21187; Tue, 19 Apr 94 09:40:13 EDT Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 09:40:13 EDT From: epacyna@auratek.com (Edward Pacyna) Message-Id: <9404191340.AA21187@auratek.auratek.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: QRP Linear Amp. For Sale Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I sent the attached message via compuserve this weekend and just received a message indicating that it was undelivered. Subject: QRP Linear Amplifier For Sale 20 Watt output, low distortion (class AB1) 1.6 to 30Mhz linear (SSB/CW) power amplifier kit from Motorola application note AN-779. The amplifier provides 28dB (+/- 1 dB) of broad band power gain (28 dB is a 630X amplification factor). Full 20W ouput will require 30-40 milliwatts of drive. The basic design uses push pull driver (MRF476 type) and ouput stages (type MRF475 type) and has 50 ohm input / output.. Typical applications might be: 1. Power amp for popular QRP rigs. For example, increasing a 1W radio to 20W will increase your signal by 13dB (little over 2 S units). 2. Add to low power exciter such as the T1 SSB/CW design published in QST by Rick Campbell. The kit includes all new, high quality parts and a double sided PCB as shown in the application note. The price is $95 as a kit or I will assemble and test the board for $135. You provide enclose, 12V power and low pass band filters. I can also provide the following: 12 volt T/R relay for $5, 5 element filter(s) for any band(s) of interest (includes 3 SM capacitors, 2 toroids magnetic wire, design info, ceramic stand-offs for point to point construction) at $5 per band, and a multipole 6+ position ceramic band swithch for $7. This is not a commercial offering and only one kit is available. Replys should be sent to the above email account or ed@auratek.com de, Ed W1AAZ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 11:32:08 1994 Return-Path: with BSMTP id 3998; Tue, 19 Apr 94 10:40:29 EXT Message-Id: 19940419.104027.ATXR@CENVMC Date: 19 Apr 94 10:40:26 EXT From: ATXR@CENVMC.CENCOL.ON.CA To: qrp for sending messages Subject: portable antenna? Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include: 1. Single band use, probably 40m. 2. Lightweight 3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel. 4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner. 5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal. 6. Cheap. Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.? What are the experiences of the group? Thanks for your comments, Ted, VA3TAR From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 12:36:44 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id JAA28866; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:11:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199404191411.JAA28866@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> From: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: TTARS expedition To: turner@safety.ICS.UCI.EDU (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:11:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404182130.aa05540@paris.ics.uci.edu> from "Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG" at Apr 18, 94 09:30:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3157 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > Did you listen to the bands this weekend? I do believe it would have made Yes, I did and they stunk. > no difference to the expedition to be up there, since several KW stations > with multi element beams couldn't get any signals through anywhere. In See, you've just proved that QRO is pointless! :-) > fact, I listened for Radio Nigeria at 7255 all night and could barely > hear the carrier! Amazing. The worst propogation I have heard in years, > one of the worst in 25 years of hamming. Well, I have worked from that location a number of times, and like I said - you can *hear* stuff from up there that you wouldn't hear 3000 feet or more further down. And as we know, *transmitting* is only HALF the job on a QSO. You gotta HEAR 'em, too. :-) > Anyway, your suggested location sounds real good, though such height has > seemed to me (in my varied experience with QRP portable) to have very > little effect at HF frequencies, even 10 meters. Now, up higher where you > depend upon line of sight! Yikes, there is a difference! I have found that > as long as I have an antenna in the clear and am not hemmed in by metallic > structures or mountains, I do quite as well as up on top of mountains...... > of course, hard to get a real comparison. On transmitting, again, there may not be a LOT of difference. But again, what you can HEAR up there is incredible. That location puts you above and away from most noise sources that you get in a more residential area, for one thing. While a car may drive through the parking area with an electrically noisy alternator, that is about it as far as artificial sources go. (unless, of course, you get more than one ham up there at once.....) All that nice electrical quietness is quite conducive to letting you hear a weaker signal without the noise *itself* drowning it out. The first time I was up there (1985) with a radio, I carried my 2-M HT up the ramp to the observation tower. Not only could I hear repeaters ID from all over the place, I heard a specific station ID and say he was in Duluth Minnesota! I'd call that a pretty good signal carriage on 2 meters. Now there probably was little chance for me to work him using my HT and a duck. :-) But had I had just slightly more elaborate gear and some more power, it certainly would have been interesting to try. (I know from personal experience that you CAN work some long distances under the right conditions on 2M. In about 1983, I caught a hellacious band opening late one night. My HT was connected to a mag mount mobile antenna on the refrigerator - this worked - through which I worked the 145.25 repeater in Indy, and connected to stations in Oklahoma, Missourri and Alabama that night. Indianapolis is about 70 miles away from me on its own, and you can gauge the mileage from Indy to the rest of those places on a map. Granted working *through* a reapeater isn't what some people would call "DXing", but those distances are STILL a pretty impressive hop.) And, even if the bands really suck and you can't work much from Clingman's Dome, the view can be great - take your camera. :-) Duane wb9omc From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 15:56:40 1994 Return-Path: 19 Apr 94 9:28 PDT To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: TTARS expedition In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:11:07 CDT." <199404191411.JAA28866@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:28:19 -0700 From: Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG Message-Id: <9404190928.aa14750@paris.ics.uci.edu> Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I think Duane raised a question I have had about relative elevation and signal propogation at HF frequencies, and I wonder about other experiences with it. My apologies to Duane for not being clear about my question, for I certainly agree that my HT is a wondrous little thing at mountain locations. (Not to mention the views :-) I have a sea level location, on a campus, next to a marsh, and I ALWAYS have as good ears as my ham friends up in the nearby 5000 - 10000 foot mountains on 40 meters (for DX and stateside). I use dipoles and a Corsair or TS 440 for a reciever. I have been on the HHH net for DX and WAS work (as QRP) for a few years and have been quite happy with my location, such as it is. I have even been called upon to relay in some DX while the fellows with higher locations with beams strain their ears.... not often, but I am always tickled when it happens. I have been on little QRP expeditions and found, in general, that for HF work, the lower locations seem to be as good as the higher locations (of course, a higher antenna above earth ground is a different story), and that being hemmed in by trees and hills is not usually a problem at all, valleys as good as tops of mountains. I suspect that with a multi element wire beam where the takeoff angle is critical, there seems to be good reason for the elevation, but generally, I have not seen any real difference, especially down below 30 meters. Don't do too much above that. Any other thoughts? Clark WA3JPG From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 17:23:48 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404191706.AA18942@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 11:56:21 EDT From: C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil Subject: re: Ted's portable antenna. To: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Since Ted is going backpacking, I assume that space to deploy an antenna is not a problem. A dipole will work for 40 meters quite well. It is resonant, cheap, portable, and effective. A method to get it in the trees should be considered. Anyone use a portable loop antenna? 72 de Cameron, KT3A. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 19:09:39 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404191935.AA25612@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:26:23 EDT From: C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil Subject: Clingman's Dome To: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk The first time I heard of Clingman's Dome was when I was helping our daughters study for a social studies test 2 month's ago. Six months ago, our family planned a vacation in Maggie Valley, NC during next month. Well, guess how far Clingman's Dome is from there? Not far! Well, all the information I'm reading on the "Dome" is making me consider extending my stay. I wonder if they will miss me at work for a few more days........ You don't know how tempting that is. I live in a neighborhood where everyone owns a "touch lamp" and light dimmer switches! :-( 72 de Cameron, KT3A From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 19:14:40 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA22104; Tue, 19 Apr 94 11:55:12 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA27686; Tue, 19 Apr 94 13:55:08 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA06891; Tue, 19 Apr 94 13:55:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 13:55:07 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404191855.AA06891@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Spring QSO Party Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, Sorry for the one week delay, but last week was spent in beautiful CA with 12 hour work days. I took some work with me to do and never got to it, i.e. two kits to build. Saturday, April 16th, was a bust on band conditions on 20M. During the test, I started at 1215Z on 40M and was there for 1.6 hrs. The conditions were not the best for QRP work. I did work W8MVN on 40M as he was my #5 contact. Worked him on the first try. He was the loudest signal of all during the period that I worked. I also heard a lot of people call him and he did not get back to them, so for those of you who posted that you tried and failed, you were not alone. 16 QSOs x 71 points x 13 states = 9,230 points. The scarey part. Of the 16 contacts, 10 of those people called me by name. That's what is scarey. You guys running an online database or what? 20M did not open at all for me. I turned on the rig (NN1G) for 20M and tuned the antenna. Fairly strong carrier on 14.060 MHz and could hear only one station. So, shut down for couple of hours in hopes that 20M would open up. No such luck. Carrier was still on frequency. No signals heard anywhere including the digital stuff above 14.060MHz. On Sunday, same story. 40M was dead when I got to it 1500Z. Back to 20M and still there was a carrier on 14.060 MHz, but no other signals heard. So went to pack and get ready for trip to 6-land. Came back later. Same carrier on freq. Got to thinking, that doesn't sound right. Got another receiver (MXM) and sure enough 14.060 MHz carrier with no modulation. So, I thought to myself, what in the world would be doing that. I went through the whole house and unplugged everything and I mean everything. Came back to receivers and sure enough the carrier was gone. So, I said to myself, what's different in the house that I didn't have during the last QRP test. Ah-ha. The answer machine. Sure enough, the PANASONIC KX-T1432 EASA-Phone puts out a strong pure carrier on 14.060MHz!!! They will hear about this. :-) The machine goes down whenever I'm going to get on 20M. Maybe the FCC might be interested in this little puppy also. I can say that they make a darn good qrp rig. No chirp and absolutely NO drift. Maybe I can make it into a beacon. :-) May have such an animal in your neighborhood too. Rig used was a new MXM Transceiver at 0.95W out into a 40M long wire, reduced from 80M to see if I could reduce the directivity a little. The rig worked beautifully. A report to follow later this week. Not anywhere near an impressive showing, but we all know how bad the bands have been and the weekend of April 9th was no exception. That's why it's a hobby and it also shows us how much we depend upon outside factors to help us communicate. For now, dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 19:39:06 1994 Return-Path: <01HBD1SZHCWAFUMXER@tntech.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:29:12 CDT Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:29:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "JEFF M. GOLD" Subject: TTARS expedition To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBD1SZHCWCFUMXER@tntech.edu> X-Vms-To: QRP X-Vms-Cc: JMG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk HI all, just stopped by work on the way home to clean up emergencies and email. Well about the TTARS expedition.. bottom line.. SUCCESS. Took Friday off from work to go up early and set up the equipment and camper. One of worst storms of the year.. had the repeater emergency net set up due to tornados.. one hit the West side of town. Terrible rain and flooding. Spend the afternoon watching tv till the rain let up enough to drive to park. Got to the park and set up the camper just before the next storm hit and terrible downpours.. decided to wait till Sat. to set up stations. Saturday.. got up real early and the WX was perfect .. clear and starting to warm up. Set up the ZS6??? and the MFJ HI Q loop. Hooked up the old Yaesu 301 and the MFJ SSB. everything working fine. Made first contact on 40 meter SSB with another special events station.. good signal and audio report. Let WD4GZW take over now that I knew the station was working. Almost immediately he made a contact.. the guy couldn't believe we were using low power (just about 5-7 watts) .. another guy cut in and they had a 3 way QSO.. The 2 other guys ended up going down to 5 watts and giving each other signal reports.. they couldn't stop talking about how impressed they were that low power worked on SSB.. had a comment that one knew that QRP was possible on CW, but never even gave a thought to QRP/SSB. New converts? Got some great quotes for an article. A little later the students arrived. Talked them in on simplex 2 meter frequency. One operated the Yaesu, the other the MFJ. After a couple of hours they asked about setting up a dipole.. happen to have an extra 20 meter dipole in my car..let them set up the antenna using the old bow and arrow method.. 2 shots.. killed 2 trees... The dipole worked great on 20.. worked Spain, and some DX. Yes, the bands were TERRIBLE.. but still managed a good amount of contacts.. the students learned a lot about operating procedures and were impressed with how well QRP worked.. even with battery power, dipoles and bad band conditions.. I let them work most of the time on SSB.. they were really into it... So, didn't break any records with number of QSOs.. think we worked about 65 stations on Sat (The bands were MUCH worse on Sunday, so went hiking with the family).. but the expedition in my opinion did what it set out to do.. QRP worked, and people on the air even tried it out and were impressed and got some new hams into HF and gave them a reason to upgrade. Thanks to all of you who tried.... we will be doing this again. 73 Jeff, AC4HF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 21:19:05 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA22106; Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:56:52 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA28629; Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:56:47 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA07290; Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:56:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:56:40 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404192156.AA07290@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: good news - bad news Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, I got some good news and I got some bad news. Good News - received Spring 1994 issue of Hambrew Bad News - received Spring 1994 issue of Hambrew Total of 48 pages, counting front and back cover. Table of Contents Letters 4 Kit Review: OHR WM-1 QRP Wattmeter 7 An Easy to Build 15 Watt Transmitter 9 New Products 15 Brand New MXM Transceiver 16 Some Tips On VFO Stability by Doug DeMaw 19 Neophyte Roundup 22 The W6EMT 10 Meter Receiver 23 Improved Neophyte Receiver 25 Using Transistors and ICs by B. Williams 28 20/20/Hindsight 30 TwoFer III Salvation Transmitter 32 Narrow Band Sweep For Signal Generators 38 Shack Shots 45 Classified Advertising 46 There wasn't, IMHO, that much exciting in the issue. The review of the MXM Transceiver, of which I have two, was complimentary to the rig but not much meat. On page 45, there are two photographs of W8MVN!!! and his setup. For those of you who didn't work him, at least you can see what he looks like. :-) The 15W transmitter is for 15 meters uses a 74HC240 for an oscillator. Don't know about you guys, but I just can't see generating square waves for output to a 7 pole Cheby filter to go to an antenna. It's just not spectrally within the FCC requirements for harmonic supression. I'll do the analysis and put it in the K5FO Newsletter. And the phrase (and I quote) "The following ten meter circuit values should work, but there may still be a few bugs to iron out". Don't think that I'd publish anything like that and hope that I never have to eat my words if I do. :-) I have probably wasted too much bandwidth already and I apologize. dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Tue Apr 19 23:24:11 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for qrp@think.com); Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:22:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:22:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199404200122.AA04929@yfn2.ysu.edu> From: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu (Jerry Sy) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: how difficult really is QRP Reply-To: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk ok, nobody has replied to my earlier posting yet about my questions on equipment/rig I need to get started in QRP. I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never horror or failure stories. I have asked a lot of local hams and so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated, hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and many more reasons. How popular is QRP considering there are only a few thousand (<100K ?) hams who do QRP compared to the millions of licensed hams ? 73s de Jerry N3RKD -- ********************* What is six multiplied by nine ? From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 00:10:09 1994 Return-Path: (5.67a8/IDA-1.4.4 for qrp@Think.COM); Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:16:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:12:11 -500 (EDT) From: James Lyons Subject: Re: portable antenna? To: ATXR@CENVMC.CENCOL.ON.CA Cc: qrp for sending messages In-Reply-To: 19940419.104027.ATXR@CENVMC Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On 19 Apr 1994 ATXR@CENVMC.CENCOL.ON.CA wrote: > From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department > I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna > for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include: > 1. Single band use, probably 40m. > 2. Lightweight > 3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel. > 4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner. > 5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal. > 6. Cheap. > Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.? > What are the experiences of the group? > Thanks for your comments, > Ted, VA3TAR > For many years, back in the 70's I used a 40 meter dipole while camping; it never failed to give me contacts running 2 watts, no tuner. Mine wasn't particularly light weight but making a light weight version shouldn't alter the performance. I could be set up as a dipole, an inverted Vee or as a quarter wave end-fed with one half stretched out as a counterpoise. Mind you, conditions were better at that time! 72, Jim, VE2KN From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 00:51:35 1994 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:46:27 -0400 (EDT) From: SYJERRY@duq3.cc.duq.edu To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <940419214627.230b8@duq3.cc.duq.edu> Subject: thanks for reply Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk thanks to all those who replied to my posting about QRP kits! Jeff NH6IL Cameron, KT3A djwang@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov "JEFF M. GOLD" 73s de Jerry N3RKD From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 01:46:28 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for qrp@think.com); Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:17:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:17:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199404200217.AA10372@yfn2.ysu.edu> From: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu (Jerry Sy) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: joining clubs and ordering kits Reply-To: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I have been reading the qrp archives (from ftp site) and would like to join the ARCI and NorCal (this is the one that has QRPp, right ?)_ Do I just send my check to the address shown in the article ? how about ordering the SP-1 kit , do I just send my check to them and they know to send me the kit ? I'm not used to this kind of mail order transaction. is the super cmos keyer II still available from R&R (?) ? 73s de Jerry N3RKD -- From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 03:11:05 1994 Return-Path: id AA12050; Wed, 20 Apr 94 00:34:33 -0400 Message-Id: <9404200436.AA27441@es1.local> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 00:36:06 -0400 From: kaul@nbc.ge.com To: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com Subject: welcome back Cc: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hiya, Chuck You're not the first five to go to six land and seem to get sucked into a black hole. If you think you worked W8MVN, you might be ready for an entire episode of the Twilight Zone written about your contest efforts. And there could be a 15-yard penalty assessed for a beacon operation below 14.1. Beyond that, we Internetters are glad to have you back to put our contest weekend into some sort of reality context. 72 and next time, take the rig! De alan, w6rcl / kaul @ nbc.ge.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 04:52:30 1994 Return-Path: id AA00135; Wed, 20 Apr 94 01:02:12 EDT Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:01:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199404200501.BAA08852@freenet2.carleton.ca> From: ab268@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ying Hum) To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: portable antenna? Reply-To: ab268@freenet.carleton.ca Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > >From: Ted Rosen, Architectural Technology Department >I am looking for recommendations for a portable qrp antenna >for backpacking. The qualities I am looking for include: >1. Single band use, probably 40m. >2. Lightweight >3. Easy to setup, takedown and store for travel. >4. Easy to match for swr, hopefully without a tuner. >5. Effective radiation of transmitted signal. >6. Cheap. >Am I limited to a longwire, dipole, inverted vee, etc.? >What are the experiences of the group? >Thanks for your comments, >Ted, VA3TAR > If you can get hold of Tuneable Portable antenna from Spilsbury Communication Ltd, model STA-210D, it will serve your need. It covers 3.5 to 13.4 MHz. It looks like a CB antenna with a clamp welded to the base of the antenna. By turning the antenna at the base, you match the antenna at your operating frequency. I picked up couple from Ford Surplus in Smith Fall, Ontario. With a 40 meter hybrid, I am having a vertical phase array with effective radiation. Also, their portable SSB Transceiver SBX-11 is great for camping trip. They are 4 channels crystal SSB radio with 10 W output. It uses 9 D cell which store at the back of the radio. It is about 8 lbs with batteries. Ying VA3YH / VE3FUB -- Ying Hum ~{L7S"G? dWL+;*#, id AA27163; Tue, 19 Apr 94 22:40:03 PDT Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 22:40:03 PDT From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Message-Id: <9404200540.AA27163@deneb.csustan.edu> To: Qrp@Think.COM Subject: Need Email address Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I hate to do this, but I absolutely must find Ron Majewski's email address. Does anyone have it? Or Ron can you send it to me direct if you are still on the system? 72, Doug From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 05:43:50 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404200502.AA28464@es1.local> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 01:02:18 -0400 From: kaul@nbc.ge.com To: SYJERRY@duq3.cc.duq.edu Subject: your note to QRP@think.com Cc: QRP@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hiya, I sent a response -- don't know how it didn;t get there, but since I did not save it, here is another version. Hope this one makes it. FIRST: You asked about rigs. There are lotsa. Most are kits -- though a few are buy-able fully-built. Take a look at the ads in QST and CQ for the new Ten-Tec Scout. Single band and pricey--about $500. BUT each additional band can be added for $25, there is digital readout and good filtering in a superhet rcvr, power fully adjustable from 5w to 50W and both SSB and CW. Sounds hard to beat. Now, if you're looking for something much cheaper that you can build yourself -- check the May issue of CQ Magazine (most big libraries subscribe, or you might be able to find it in your Magazine store). Read the review on the A and A engineering 20M rig which sells as a kit for $169.95. Pretty good rig, 5w, CW, good filtering in a superhet, etc. Want to spend less? NN1G sells kits as does an outfit named Radio Kit, as does MFJ. Some of them advertise in the Ham Mags, some don't. You can look NN1G up in the call book, or Radio Kits is in New Hampshire (might try area code plus 555-1212). MFJ advertises in CQ, QST, 73, and can often be found in most ham stores. One more thought on rigs -- watch this space (the Internet) for how to join the Northern Calif QRP Club, then then be eligible to buy the Sierra (an all band QRP rig will will be sold to members for about $300 in kit form sometime this summer). SECOND. I have been a builder since I got started in radio in 1958. Not a great builder -- but an avid builder with lotsa projects over the years. Some worked, some didn't. I wrote the first article which appeared in 73 Magazine in 1975-or-76 on converting a crystalplex CB rig to 10M (5w on AM) and have always loved low pwer operating. So I don't sound like a hypocrite, I will say for the record I also own a couple of 100W transceivers and a Heathkit KW. But there is something that keeps bringing me back to low power. If other hams in your town tell you it won't work -- tell them that just isn't true. I ran 10w in the contest a couple of weeks ago and despite rotten propagation, I worked 17 contacts with 12-states and Panama in 2-hours of casual operating. Others worked a lot more stations and did a lot better with multipliers. In 1985, in a 3-month period, running 6-watts input to a rig I built from the ARRL Handbook and a receiver from QST called 'the Barbados' I worked about 80-countries using wire antennas on a hotel balcony. Yes, I was on-air from Amman, Jordan, as JY9RL (which some think adds about 10db to anyone's signal) but the point is, I was working paths of 7-8 thousand miles -- more than a kilomile per watt. There are lots of people to work on QRP. Of course, you never work everyone you want to, but hang out at 7035-7040, 10123+-5, or 14060+-5 and see what happens. QRP really is the last outpost of the guys who get as much of a thrill from almost every contact as they did with their first!!! If you can't understand the latter statement, wait til you've tried it. 73, 72, and GL de alan, w6rcl (kaul@nbc.ge.com) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 09:45:06 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404201220.AA02633@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 06:49:07 EDT From: C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil Subject: N3RKD and QRP: Response To: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu Cc: qrp@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk In response to Jerry's comments on recommended rigs and QRP in general, I wish to share my ideas. QRP is an art and a philosophy. I am lured into challenges. QRP is a challenge. If you were a fisherman, you could catch hundreds of fish by throwing a stick of dynamite into the lake. If you were a hunter, you could hit that deer with an M16. But, are you satisfied? Look at contest results and note the QRP scores compared to others. Both operators may be happy with their scores even though the QRP op had a much lower score. I am okay if I work someone with 100 watts. I know that with 2 watts and good skills I still work them. I feel better working them with 2 watts than if I used 100 watts. It makes radio that much more magic to me. If I work them with something I built and not something mass produced in Japan, I feel even better! I take more pride in the contact. Just as the race car mechanic tries to build a car to go faster and burn less fuel, so is the QRP'er with their equipment. As for your rig......you can buy a QRP rig built. You can build a kit. You could build from proven plans. Or, you could design your own. You are no less a person for choosing any of the above. It is all in what you want. If you have a 100 watt radio I suggest operating with 5 watts to start. Most rigs can be backed down. If you can build, maybe buy a kit. Never before has there been so many QRP kits. If you are skilled in construction or design, build from plans or brew your own. The group is here to help you. You don't always find such an opportunity. Let us know what you would like. 72 de Cameron, KT3A From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 13:15:10 1994 Return-Path: From: g-taylor4@tamu.edu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940420084309.352; 20 Apr 94 08:49:26 +0600 Message-Id: >From: TAEX003N!GTAYLOR ("Greg Taylor") Organization: TX Agricultural Extension Service To: qrp@Think.COM Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 08:42:51 CDT Subject: Re: how difficult really is QRP Reply-To: g-taylor4@tamu.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1301 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never > horror or failure stories. I have asked a lot of local hams and > so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated, > hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not > good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and > many more reasons. Reponse to this should be interesting! As Ade Weiss says in the "Joy of QRP" frustration is a function of expectations, i.e. don't expect more than your rig/antenna/experience can deliver. Chances are a dipole at 20ft wont get you much dx with 5 watts just starting in qrp at this point in the cycle, although it is possible. Improvements in all areas to include experience will lead to successively rewarding experiences. 72, Greg KD4HZ ****************************************************************************** Dr. Gregory S. Taylor !MAIL: 110 Dairy Science Building Extension Program Leader for ! College Station, TX 77843-2124 Community Development !VOICE: 409-845-4445 Texas Agricultural Extension Service!FAX: 409-847-8744 Texas A&M University System !EMAIL: Reply or g-taylor4@tamu.edu ****************************************************************************** From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 14:15:55 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id JAA28972; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:36:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199404201436.JAA28972@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> From: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: Spring QSO Party To: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:36:10 -0500 (EST) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404191855.AA06891@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> from "Chuck Adams" at Apr 19, 94 01:55:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2031 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > house that I didn't have during the last QRP test. Ah-ha. The answer > machine. Sure enough, the PANASONIC KX-T1432 EASA-Phone puts out a > strong pure carrier on 14.060MHz!!! They will hear about this. :-) > The machine goes down whenever I'm going to get on 20M. Maybe the FCC > might be interested in this little puppy also. I can say that they > make a darn good qrp rig. No chirp and absolutely NO drift. Maybe > I can make it into a beacon. :-) May have such an animal in your > neighborhood too. I have a KXT1450 (I think that's the right number). While I've never noticed it generating anything on 10 meters (or anywhere else), *it* is quite susceptible to RF. For openers, everytime I even power up my Uniden HR2510 (don't have to transmit, just rotate the tuning knob) the answering machine starts doing things.....playing back, erasing the OGM, etc. And I can't just power it off, I actually have to UNPLUG the power cord or it will power itself on and start doing things. Wierd. Granted, the machine is physically located within inches of my coax, only because given the layout of our apartment, there just *isn't* anyplace better to put it. The other thing we noticed is that if it is recording an Incoming message and one of the local Chicken Banders starts up, the machine won't drop out of record! It keeps on going and gives me a perfect taped transcript of the Childrens Banders speech, that is until he stops transmitting long enough OR the tape runs out, which has happened. I've been thinking about getting one of those nifty little RF filters they make to put in-line. Don't know if they're worth the money or not. Maybe I'll have to tune around some more and see if ours *does* radiate like yours - sometimes on my DX440 SWL rcvr I have noticed some little birdies that I can't account for that *I* thought were within the radio itself. (major source of noise, Mr. TV, already having been powered off, along with #2 source, the speed control box for the ceiling fan) Duane From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 14:40:33 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id JAA29174; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:46:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199404201446.JAA29174@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> From: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: Clingman's Dome To: C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:46:00 -0500 (EST) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404191935.AA25612@Early-Bird.Think.COM> from "C=BAILEY%IS%211EIS@ANG193FS.ang.af.mil" at Apr 19, 94 02:26:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1969 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > The first time I heard of Clingman's Dome was when I was helping our > daughters study for a social studies test 2 month's ago. Six months ago, our > family planned a vacation in Maggie Valley, NC during next month. Well, > guess how far Clingman's Dome is from there? Not far! Well, all the > information I'm reading on the "Dome" is making me consider extending my > stay. I wonder if they will miss me at work for a few more days........ > You don't know how tempting that is. I live in a neighborhood where everyone > owns a "touch lamp" and light dimmer switches! :-( > 72 de Cameron, KT3A > > Hey, if you're gonna be in the neighborhood anyhow, GO FOR IT! If you come into the GSMNP from the NC side, all ya gotta do is follow that main road through the park to Newfound Gap. The road to Clingman's Dome splits off from there. Hints: If you want radio and don't care about the view, go anytime of day. The mountain tends to often be foggy with a shitty view in the morning. This haze will often break around noonish or mid-afternoon. Listen to the weather forecasts, too. Also hint: it can get surprisingly chilly up there, even during the summer. Take a jacket. You can also sunburn surprisingly quickly, especially if you're like me and tend toward that sunburn anyhow. Hats are good. :-) Since you're apparently going in May, you might want to check out some of the hiking possibilities. I think many of the wildflowers will be in bloom, hopefully you won't have missed them. From the obs. tower at the summit of Clingman's you have access to the Appalachian Trail itself. There are other trails that branch off from that. You can usually purchase some decent hiking trail maps at the main office of the park, down on the Gatlinburg side. For another nice scenic area, also go to Cades' Cove. Some good hiking can be had from there. I don't know what the radio is like from the cove, though.... :-) :-) Duane From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 14:52:29 1994 Return-Path: <01HBE9NN2H7O9JEM28@fair1.fairfield.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:22:58 EST Date: 20 Apr 1994 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) From: "DONALD A. COLEMAN (EXT. 2850)" Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com To: kaul@nbc.ge.com Cc: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBE9NN2H7Q9JEM28@fair1.fairfield.edu> X-Vms-To: IN%"kaul@nbc.ge.com" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"qrp@think.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To Paul, I say *bravo*! To the originator of the note, I say this, in addition to what Paul has already said. I'm a really unconventional qrp operator. First, I don't work qrp except when I very occasionally get the urge. And second, when I do get the urge, I use about a hundred milliwatts. I don't use a kits because I like to design my own rigs for qrp. Because I'm not an engineer, my rigs are crude, and operating them is all art. Right now I have a single-transistor vfo driving a class A buffer stage driving a class C transistor final. It's an 80-mtr rig, and I have thirteen states confirmed (without cheating) on that band. By "cheating," I mean using qro to get a contact first and then putting on the qrp rig. I hope all this goes to show you that "qrp" can mean different things--and sometimes some pretty strange thing--to different ops. 72.5954536 Don Coleman, W1VOQ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 15:12:33 1994 Return-Path: id AA13267; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:17:19 -0400 id AA23289; Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:20:07 EDT id AA09312; Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:20:02 EDT Message-Id: <9404201520.AA09312@kaos.ksr.com> To: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu Cc: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: how difficult really is QRP In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Apr 94 21:22:27 EDT." <199404200122.AA04929@yfn2.ysu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:20:01 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > I always read about success stories here and in magazines and never > horror or failure stories. I have asked a lot of local hams and > so far not a single one recommend it, they say I will be frustrated, > hams ignore weak signals, propagation condition for QRP is not > good and I won't get anywhere, kit quality not that good, and > many more reasons. Propagation conditions are the same for everyone. Of those who claimed "hams ignore weak signals", how many said that *they* ignore weak signals? If I can't make out a callsign, I probably won't try answering, but *I* certainly don't require signals to be ear-splitting, and never have. Making contacts is somewhat easier with more power, and so a beginner may not want to try milliwatting, but even as a Novice years ago, I never ran more than about 75W (this was after the Novice limit was raised, though), and did quite well with an ancient 20W phasing-type SSB rig. Kit quality varies; don't get Ramsey kits to operate (but they're sort of OK as initial learning experiences), but Oak Hills Research and other kit vendors have perfectly fine kits. You won't find kits with multiple VFOs, DC-to-daylight receive and transmit coverage, and a builtin separate receiver that automatically seeks out WWV at 18 past the hour to let you hear the latest propagation conditions, but if you don't actually *want* crud like that, kits are fine. > How popular is QRP considering there are only a few thousand (<100K ?) > hams who do QRP compared to the millions of licensed hams ? How popular is jogging compared to the millions of licensed drivers? 73, John, WB7EEL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 16:07:48 1994 Return-Path: id AA14901; Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:08:47 -0500 via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940420110810.320; 20 Apr 94 11:07:51 +0500 Message-Id: From: "Evert Halbach" Organization: Nicholls State University To: qrp@Think.COM Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:08:05 CST Subject: Xtals Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Don't throw away those old modems, telephones, etc. Most of them have valuable parts including a 3.579545 Xtal which falls at least in 4 bands (not necessarily cw though). Evert From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 16:48:32 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA29808; Wed, 20 Apr 94 09:29:50 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA04190; Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:19:10 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA08382; Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:19:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:19:09 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404201619.AA08382@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: OHR WM-1 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Just got word that the WM-1 Wattmeter is available for $99.95 plus $4.50 S&H from Oak Hills Research in assembled form. This is for those who don't have the time or energy to build or the desire to do so either. Still a good deal at any price. Just another satisfied customer, but I did build mine. The kit is still at the $89.95 price plus shipping and handling. dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 17:06:48 1994 Return-Path: id AA16191; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 12:59:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 12:59:40 -0400 From: djwang@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu Message-Id: <9404201659.AA16191@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: RE: QRP kits Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Many thanks to those who responded to my posting regarding NorCal 40 and QRP kits. 73 de D.J. N2YKP/AA (djwang@sneezy.biophys.upenn.edu) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 18:55:02 1994 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:32:27 -0600 (MDT) From: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov Message-Id: <940420103227.20a02bc4@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov> Subject: Freudian Slip? Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Can't believe this went by without comment last week -- From Bill, N8ET: >Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him >since the middle of the QSO Party, and he is usually god for two or three a >day... HI HI :-) dit dit ! From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 19:05:16 1994 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:54:44 EDT From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: cfishman@PICA.ARMY.MIL Subject: Hamfest Message-Id: <9404201454.aa05017@FSAC3.PICA.ARMY.MIL> Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York) hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield fest Tnx Clark Fishman WA2UNN cfishman@pica.army.mil From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 19:20:42 1994 Return-Path: (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for QRP@Think.COM (QRP mailing list)); Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:09:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:09:30 -0500 From: "Andrew W. Hull" Message-Id: <199404201909.AA03619@platypus.csl.uiuc.edu> To: QRP@Think.COM (QRP mailing list) Subject: Low power FH xmitter/rcvr construction Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am interested in building a low power, frequency hopped transmitter/receiver for an experimental project. Can someone provide some technical assistance on how to build the necessary circuits, and a good reference or two to fill in the details. All help will be appreciated. Thanks! Andy Hull Univ. Illinois hull@what.csl.uiuc.edu (217) 333 6444 From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 20:56:44 1994 Return-Path: id AA29128; Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:33:53 HST id AA13563; Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:35:49 HST Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:35:48 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: "DONALD A. COLEMAN (EXT. 2850)" Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com In-Reply-To: Your message of 20 Apr 1994 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: QRP@Think.COM Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: I build them on wooden blocks and use wood screws for terminals. My lastest 40M xmtr uses the variable cap from a UHF TV tuner complete with the channel indicator: channels 14-83. I want to adjust it so that 7040 kc falls on channel 40. You folks would laugh so hard (or else just shake your head in embarrassment) if you saw my contraptions. I'm amazed that they work. Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos? Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 22:23:04 1994 Return-Path: <01HBEMUMW6XC00008E@UALR.EDU>; Wed, 20 Apr 1994 17:30:41 CDT Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 15:30:00 +0000 From: bob.hilton@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Bob Hilton) Subject: TRANSMATCH ADVICE To: qrp@Think.COM Reply-To: bob.hilton@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Bob Hilton) Message-Id: <31782.7.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet X-Envelope-To: qrp@think.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a way to get more of my signal out into the ether; presently I'm just running with the antenna naively attached to the back of the rig (the "it's gotta go somewhere" approach), but I suspect that if the antenna/transmission line were more closely matched to what the rig wants to see I'd have better results. So I'm asking: which commercially available transmatch (antenna tuner) do you recommend? My requirements are: high quality, small/light, qrp power only, efficient, etc. Cost isn't really an issue (although I _do_ have a budget), and if necessary a kit would be fine. The Oak Hills wattmeter has received good reviews; do they also offer a transmatch? MFJ makes a variety of transmatches, but I've heard that quality is variable; will one of their units work for me (or, should I avoid any particular models?) ? Oh yeah, I'd really like to have both balanced and unbalanced outputs. Either post to the reflector or e-mail me (bob.hilton@chaos.lrk.ar) and I'll summarize responses. Thanks and 73 Bob ki5ez From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 22:53:34 1994 Return-Path: id AA15924; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:49:17 PDT id AA21717; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:49:16 PDT id AA04127; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:50:51 PDT Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) From: stark Subject: Re: Freudian Slip? To: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov Cc: qrp@Think.COM, B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov In-Reply-To: <940420103227.20a02bc4@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 Apr 1994 B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov wrote: > Can't believe this went by without comment last week -- From Bill, N8ET: > > >Does anyone know what happened to Chuck ?? I have not seen a post from him > >since the middle of the QSO Party, and he is usually god for two or three a > >day... > > HI HI :-) > > dit dit > ! Does anyone claim to be his son? :-) ........................KU7Y........................ .................Monte "Ron" Stark.................. .................Sun Valley, Nevada................. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Wed Apr 20 23:46:32 1994 Return-Path: id AA14583; Wed, 20 Apr 94 16:43:38 -0700 Message-Id: <9404210042.AA07515@itgmsm> From: laurahal@microsoft.com To: hull@platypus.csl.uiuc.edu, qrp@Think.COM Subject: RE: Low power FH xmitter/rcvr constructi Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 17:40:00 PDT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Andy Hull writes: > I am interested in building a low power, frequency hopped > transmitter/receiver for an experimental project. Can > someone provide some technical assistance on how to build > the necessary circuits, and a good reference or two to > fill in the details. A handy place to start is the ARRL's Spread Spectrum Sourcebook. Check recent ARRL Handbooks also; real keeners will want to check some of the professional literature, like Dickson's classic book on the subject. U.S. patent number 2,292,387 "Secret Communication System" (FH spread spectrum), though granted in 1942, still has some useful ideas on synchronising the transmitter and receiver. They used player piano innards to generate PN sequences. We use logic chips now. You won't believe the names on the patent: Hedy Kiesler Markey was better known as movie star Hedy Lamarr... Electronics World and Wireless World had a series on SS last year, with full construction details of a 70cm direct sequence system with do-it-yourself sliding correlators. Spread spectrum is still considered sensitive technology, and there are significant restrictions on using it in many countries (including the U.S.). Please make sure you understand them. Among other things, only certain PN sequences are allowed. 73 from Burnaby, laura VE7LDH From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 01:04:13 1994 Return-Path: id AA14484; Wed, 20 Apr 94 22:05:48 -0400 (from sct@pop.cwru.edu for qrp@think.com) Message-Id: <9404210205.AA14484@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu> From: Stephen Trier Date: 21 Apr 1994 02:05:42 GMT To: wb9omc@ecn.purdue.edu Cc: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: Spring QSO Party In-Reply-To: wb9omc@ecn.purdue.edu Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:36:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Granted, the machine is physically located within inches > of my coax, only because given the layout of our apartment, there just > *isn't* anyplace better to put it. As an experiment, try wrapping the machine and/or the coax in aluminum foil. If that makes a difference, it may give you some ideas on ways to shield one from the other. I used to use the wrap-in-foil trick all the time when solving RFI problems with computers. It sure ain't scientific, but it is an easy way to experiment with brute-force shielding, and it's fairly cheap. It might also help to use coax that has a foil shield or a double shield. That affects how much RF leaks. If you have a balanced antenna, use a balun, and make sure your rig has a good ground. Without this, you may have RF on the shield, at which point the type of the shield is irrelevant. A QST I read recently (maybe it was even the April 94 issue?) had an article about an FCC survey of telephones. They found that many models had really poor RFI suppression. Because the FCC found models that had sufficient RFI suppression, they decided it was the phones' fault, not the RF transmitters. The FCC also found that the RF filters out there were pretty useless. It seems the RFI is getting into the phone in the phone, not in the line. (That seems to make sense, since I'd think most RFI in the line would be common-mode. That would be rejected by the phone hybrid, wouldn't it?) Stephen -- Stephen Trier sct@po.cwru.edu KB8PWA From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 02:03:35 1994 Return-Path: id AA07701; Wed, 20 Apr 94 21:25:37 MDT Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:25:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Rick Zabrodski Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com To: Jeffrey Herman Cc: "DONALD A. COLEMAN (EXT. 2850)" , QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Jeff, your transmitters sound like my howbrew balanced tuners! All built on availble scraps of plywood with minimal parts and the KISS principle.........photos also available on request! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Rick Zabrodski BSc, MD, CCFP(E) VE6GK "glider king" EMAIL: zabrodski@med.ucalgary. ca "M.D. on weekdays" Packet: VE6GK@VE6YYC.#cgy.ab.can.na "Solar powered aviator Phone: (403) 271-5123 Fax: 225-1276 on weekends!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 20 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote: > Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: I > build them on wooden blocks and use wood screws for terminals. My lastest > 40M xmtr uses the variable cap from a UHF TV tuner complete with the channel > indicator: channels 14-83. I want to adjust it so that 7040 kc falls on > channel 40. You folks would laugh so hard (or else just shake your head > in embarrassment) if you saw my contraptions. I'm amazed that they work. > > Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos? > > Jeff NH6IL > > From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 03:28:43 1994 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:59:18 -0600 (MDT) From: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov To: qrp@Think.COM Cc: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov Message-Id: <940420215918.20a02eba@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov> Subject: QRP "Expedition" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk PRESS RELEASE April 22, 1994, Idaho Falls Idaho Renowned QRPer and cowboy wannabe KR8L/7 loaded his American made radio into his American made pickup truck today and headed south to Utah for, in his words, "some sight seein', some four wheelin', and some QRPin'." The tall, charismatic Amateur Radio operator reported that he would be operating his Ten Tec Argosy in low power mode using a 50 foot end-fed wire and tuner. The lack of trees on the beautiful Utah desert may be a hindrance, but "what the heck -- mebee I'll just hitch it to one of them perty red rocks." As he powered his big, red GMC out of the driveway, he was heard to say: "I'm hankerin' to try some of that QRP SSB stuff. Hope all the boys and gals east of the Great Divide will be listenin' fer my signals. YeeeeeeeeHaaaa!" KR8L and KA8TER expect to be in the Utah desert through the weekend and into the first part of next week.  From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 09:59:35 1994 Return-Path: <01HBFL2UOTFK9JEPNO@fair1.fairfield.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:54:09 EST Date: 21 Apr 1994 09:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: "DONALD A. COLEMAN (EXT. 2850)" Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com To: jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Cc: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBFL2UOTFM9JEPNO@fair1.fairfield.edu> X-Vms-To: IN%"jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"qrp@think.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Soo Jeff thinks he's got me on crudity! Well, let me tell him! My current rig is built in a utility box with the transistors screw-mounted by their leads on one of those Cinch Jones barrier strips. You know, I think we should have a *Yoogly Construxion* contest! 72.949633835 Don Coleman, W1VOQ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 10:12:10 1994 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 8:10:43 -0600 (MDT) From: B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov To: bob.hilton@chaos.lrk.ar.us Cc: qrp@Think.COM, B61395@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov Message-Id: <940421081043.20a0306a@awtims.fe.anlw.anl.gov> Subject: RE: TRANSMATCH ADVICE Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hi Bob. I have used an MFJ 16010 random wire tuner for *many* years with good success. Although not strictly a QRP unit (it's rated for 200w), it is small and rugged, and works very well. I recently acquired an MFJ 901B tuner which is also rated for 200w, but is similarly compact and rugged. I think both of these tuners are well made and have been pleased with their performance. I use both with random wires, and use the 901B to expand the "bandwidth" of my HF6V on 80m. Neither has a built-in match indicator, but this is not a problem for me, as I use a homebrew unit based on a W1FB design, or the built-in SWR meter in my Argosy. 73, Bill, KR8L/7 (wparmley@anl.gov) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 10:22:46 1994 Return-Path: id AA03058 for qrp@think.com; Thu, 21 Apr 94 10:22:06 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0ptzYp-000B4uC; Thu, 21 Apr 94 10:16 EDT id AA584 ; Thu, 21 Apr 94 10:17:23 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:03:11 GMT Message-Id: <18349@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Hosstraders Hamfest in New Hampshire Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk It's May 6-7 (Fri-Sat). New England QRP Club will be meeting there on Saturday afternoon. 73 Jim From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 10:33:38 1994 Return-Path: id AA15690; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:31:45 -0500 via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.940421093111.352; 21 Apr 94 09:31:35 +0500 Message-Id: From: "Evert Halbach" Organization: Nicholls State University To: qrp@Think.COM Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:31:03 CST Subject: HW-8 Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I am looking for a HW-8 and an average price figure. Can anyone tell me about what they are selling for if you can even find one????????? 73's Evert WA5OJI From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 11:17:06 1994 Return-Path: id AA00658; Thu, 21 Apr 94 08:10:35 PDT id AA28810; Thu, 21 Apr 94 08:10:32 PDT (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA21886; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:08:42 -0500 From: Randall Rhea Posted-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 10:08:42 CDT Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:08:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9404211508.AA21886@atlas> Subject: Re: HW-8 To: CS-ERH@nich-nsunet.nich.edu (Evert Halbach) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 10:08:42 CDT Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: ; from "Evert Halbach" at Apr 21, 94 9:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk => =>I am looking for a HW-8 and an average price figure. Can anyone tell =>me about what they are selling for if you can even find one????????? => => 73's Evert WA5OJI => I haven't posted this on Usenet for awhile, but I will soon, and I will get more responses and update it. The two responses I have for an HW-8 are $75 for one that needed work and $115 for one in good condition. USED HF & 6m RIG PRICE SURVEY 26 Oct 1993 Version Here is a list of actual transactions involving buying and selling of used HF amateur radios. I have absolutely no affiliation with any ham-radio-related business. Rigs are sorted by maker, model, and price. All transactions were made within the past three years. I welcome any additional responses; please indicate maker and model of your used rig, date bought/sold, how sold (Usenet, retailer, on air, private, etc.), price, condition, and any accessories or options. This survey is limited to used HF and 6m rigs only. For prices on new rigs, consult the AES catalog, or call a ham retailer for a quote. ("List" prices are usually much higher than actual prices.) Make Model How Sold Price(US$) Extras Comment ----- ---- -------- ---------- ------ ------- ATLAS 210X OnAir $150 None Good condn,6/93 COBRA 148 Hamfest Foothl $70 None CB convrtd to 10m COLLINS 75S3B/32S1 Usenet $500 Spkr,PS good condn DRAKE TR-3 Retailer $300 None fair condn TR-5 Internet $300 CW flt,PS good condn TR-4 Hamfest Foothl $275 spkr,mic,PS fair condn TR-4 Hamfest Foothl $300 spkr,mic,PS fair condn R-4C/T-4C OnAir $200 PS,VFO separate rcvr/xmtr fair condn TR-7 Usenet $600 3 flt, PS good condn HEATHKIT HW-8 Hamfest $75 none no manual,need align HW-8 Hamfest Evnsvl $115 PS good condn HW-101 Private $125 CW flt,mic,PS,spkr good condn HW-101 Private $150 CW flt,mic,PS,spkr good condn HW-101 Usenet $200 CW flt,mnl,PS,spkr needed some work,3/92 Mohawk/Mrdr Private $80 mic,mnl TX/RX pair,1960,7/93 SB-101 Usenet $110 CW flt good condn SB-104A Private $150 VFO,PS,mic,mnl needed work,7/93 SB-200 YelloSht $325 New tubes good condn SB-300/400 Usenet $125 CW/AM flt,spkr,mnl poor condn,4/92 SB-300/400 Usenet $225 CW/AM flt,spkr,mnl good condn,5/93 SB-303 Usenet $100 Cw flt, manual rcvr, good c, 8/92 HALLICRAFTERS S-19 Private $95 None good con, 6/92 S-38 Hamfest $35 None good con, 6/92 S-120 Usenet $60 None good con, 6/92 SX-42 Usenet $135 None fair con, 6/92 SX-101 Hamfest $160 None good con, 6/92 SX-110 Usenet $85 None good con, 6/92 HAMMERLUND HQ-145 Private $45 none good condn HQ-145 Private $85 none good condn HQ-170 Hamfest TRW $250 spkr new condn SP-200 Hamfest $45 no PS good condn,9/93 HENRY/TEMPO One Hamfest NC $140 none fair condn 2020 NutsVolts $75 none fair condn ICOM IC-551 Private $350 FM 6m rig, new condn IC-575H Retailer $500 None 6m, 7/93,poor condn IC-575H Retailer $720 None 6m, 5/93,good condn IC-575H Retailer $1000 None 6m, mint, 6/93 IC-720A Hamfest Lvrmr $400 CW flt near new condn IC-730 OnAir $400 none fair condn IC-735 Usenet $600 None good condn IC-735 Usenet $700 CW flt, keyer good condn IC-735 Private $800 Keyer,spkr,PS 1 yr old, w/paddle IC-740 Hamfest NH $575 PS,CW flt,FM good condn IC-740 Dayton $650 CW flt good condn IC-745 Usenet $600 PS,keyer,CW flt good condn IC-745 Dayton $650 PS,keyer,CW flt good condn IC-751 Retailer $700 CW flt new condn IC-751 Hamfest NC $750 PS,CW flt,keypd w/speech modl IC-751A YlloSht $850 None 1 yr old IC-751A Retailer $1150 PS,CW/SSB flt good condn IC-761 Private $1300 none good condn IC-765 Usenet $1600 3 CW flt new condn IC-765 QST Clasfd $1788 none new condn IC-765 Retailer $1800 none fair condn IC-765 Usenet $2000 w/all options good condn IC-781 OnAir $3500 none good condn IC-781 QST Clasfd $4000 none new condn JOHNSON ValiantI Hamfest TRW $150 None fair condn VikRanger Hamfest TRW $100 None fair condn KENWOOD TS-120S OnAir $300 none fair condn TS-120S Usenet $350 PS fair condn TS-140 Private $550 none new condn,7/93 TS-140 Private $700 CW flt new condn,7/92 TS-180S Usenet $450 FC,CW flt fair condn TS-430S Private $500 none good condn TS-430 Private $600 FM bd good condn TS440S/AT OnAir $750 2 flt, ant tunr new condn TS440S/AT OnAir $850 2 flt, ant tunr new condn TS-520 OnAir $300 None good condn TS-520 Private $325 mic,CW flt good condn, 9/93 TS-520 Private $350 mic,manual,meter good condn TS-520 Private $450 Heath amp,mic good condn TS-520S Private $300 Heath amp,mic FC, good condn TS-520S Usenet $375 CW flt,MFJ tuner good condn TS-520SE YlloSht $350 VFO,spkr TS-520SE OnAir $500 VFO,spkr,CW flt, mic TS-530S Private $425 none good condn TS-530S Private $550 spkr,desk mic good condn R-599A + T Private $175 separate Rcvr/Xmtr needed repair TS-690 OnAir $1800 CW flt,PS,stab,VM new condn, w/6m TS-820 Hamfest NJ $400 none fair condn TS-820S Usenet $165 none needed repair TS-820S Usenet $575 CW flt,MFJ ant tr, prob with display spare finals TS-830S Hamfest LA $600 none good condn TS-830S Hamfest Cincin $600 none good condn TS-830S Retailer $650 desk mic good condn TS-850S/AT OnAir $1250 3 flt, ant tunr new condn TS-940SAT Usenet $1150 spkr,desk mic, good condn ant tunr,CW flt TS-940SAT Retailer $1450 VM,spkr,ant tunr good condn TS-950S Retailer $2000 none good condn TS-950S Retailer $2000 all options new condn RADIO SHACK HTX-100 Hamfest Foothl $150 none sale in 1991, 10m HTX-100 Retailer $159 none RdoShk tent sale, 10m SWAN 350 Retailer $175 PS,spkr,spr tubes good condn TEMPO/HENRY One Hamfest NC $140 none fair condn 2020 NutsVolts $75 none fair condn TEN-TEC Century 21 OnAir $150 None good condn Century 21 Usenet $165 None new condn Corsair 1 Retailer $595 CW flt good condn Omni D Private $400 None good condn Paragon Private $1650 PS,FM,CW flt new condn Triton IV YlloSht $200 None Triton IV YlloSht $300 PS,CW flt, NL No mic, good condn Triton IV YlloSht $300 PS,CW flt, NL,mic UNIDEN HR-2600 Usenet $160 None Good condn, 10m YAESU FT77 Private $440 VFO New condn FT101B Private $400 scope,PhP,spkr,FC Good condn FT101E Usenet $350 none FT101EE Retailer $400 none w/warranty,fair condn FT620B Private $175 none 6m,9/92 FT-726R Usenet $600 2m,70cm,Sat VHF rig FT-726R Retailer $950 6m,2m,70cm 6m+VHF rig FT747GX Retailer $550 CW flt good w/warranty FT767GX Usenet $850 6m,2m HF+VHF rig, good cond FT767GX YelloSht $1375 6m,2m,70cm HF+VHF rig, good cond FT767GX OnAir $1440 6m,2m,70cm,flt,spk HF+VHF rig, good cond FT1000 OnAir $2000 none good condn ABBREVIATIONS 2m Two Meter band module included 6m Six Meter (50 MHz) band included 10m Ten Meter (28 MHz) band only 70cm 70 Centimeter (440 MHz) band included Amp Linear amplifier Bd Board CW flt CW narrow filter FC Frequency Counter Flt Filter FM FM unit Foothl Foothill hamfest (California) Lvrmr Livermore, California mnl Manual mic Desk mic NC North Carolina NL Noise limiter NutsVolts Nuts and Volts Periodical OnAir Sold through on-the-air contact or packet PhP Phone Patch PS Power Supply Sat Satellite unit Stab Extra stable oscillator TRW TRW Swap Meet (Los Angeles CA) VFO External VFO VM Voice Module YlloSht Yellow Sheet Ham Trader Periodical -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Informix Software, Inc. Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems randall@informix.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Informix Software, Inc. Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems randall@informix.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 12:01:12 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404211600.AA08964@ig1.att.att.com> From: mvjf@mvubr.att.com (James M Fitton +1 508 960 2577) Date: 21 Apr 94 15:59:00 GMT Original-From: mvubr!mvjf (James M Fitton +1 508 960 2577) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Dayton Schedule Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Here is a (tentative) list of activities for Dayton..... Thurs... All day: Gather at Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite ** (Someone who arrives early please get key & start sign-up sheet with name, call, room #) 7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite officially opens. Reception and Introductions. Dine at hotel. Flea market set up time * Fri..... Flea market opens early * QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are set up and open. G-QRP Forum - Building and Construction - George, G3RJV Evening: Dine at hotel or at local restaurants. 7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite activities: Introductions, equipment operation, and demonstrations. 9:00 QRP-New England meeting Sat..... Flea market opens early * QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are open all day. G-QRP Forum - Anyone Can Do It - Paula, WB9TBU, Randy, AA2U 7pm to 2am. - Hotel QRP Hospitality Suite activities: ARCI BOD and Officers Meeting 6:45 - 7:45 p.m., Beer & Pizza party 7:45 p.m., Official QRP-ARCI Meeting 9 p.m. Sun..... Flea market opens early * QRP ARCI, MI-QRP, G-QRP/Kanga booths are open. Hotel - QRP Hospitality Suite closed. G-QRP Forum - Jim, W1FMR Doug, KI6DS, Chuck, K5FO ( Secrets of QRP-NE, NorCal, and N.Tex QRP clubs ) Head Home - Prepare for QRP Hamvention 1995. * John, WA3SRE offers use of his flea market table to QRPers. ** (Anyone planning to arrive early on Wed. or Thurs., please copy this notice, post it at front desk, and in Hospitality suite and start a sign-up sheet with name, call, & room # on it.) Thanks, 72 Jim, W1FMR From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 12:13:40 1994 Return-Path: id AA23039; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:36:32 -0400 id AA28575; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:39:22 EDT id AA15877; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:39:16 EDT Message-Id: <9404211339.AA15877@kaos.ksr.com> To: Jeffrey Herman Cc: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Apr 94 10:35:48 -1000." Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:39:16 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: > ... > Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos? As we say on talk.bizarre, GIF! GIF! GIF! From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 12:45:42 1994 Return-Path: <01HBFKO1FUE89S5TGA@delphi.com>; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:38:57 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: N8ET@delphi.com Subject: Re: Freudian Slip? To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBFKO1FUEA9S5TGA@delphi.com> X-Vms-To: INTERNET"qrp@think.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Now that someone has noticed my slip and brought it to the net's attention - It is time to publicly announce that is should have read " GOOD for one or two....." - not "GOD for one or two..." My apologies to Chuck, and it is GOOD to see him back on here - slowly recovering from the W6 trip nad getting back up to speed with a couple of posts a day.... 72/73 - Bill - N8ET From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 12:55:27 1994 Return-Path: From: Edward Parish id AA05237; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:44:09 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:44:09 EDT Message-Id: <9404211344.AA05237@thor.think.com> To: cfishman@PICA.ARMY.MIL Cc: QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD)'s message of Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:54:44 EDT Subject: Hamfest Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 14:54:44 EDT Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York) hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield fest Tnx Clark Fishman WA2UNN cfishman@pica.army.mil It is Friday May 6 and Saturday May 7. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 13:39:32 1994 Return-Path: id AA25892; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 13:39:05 -0400 id AA00361; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:41:52 EDT id AA27508; Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:41:50 EDT Message-Id: <9404211741.AA27508@kaos.ksr.com> To: Edward Parish Cc: cfishman@PICA.ARMY.MIL, QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: Hamfest In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:44:09 EDT." <9404211344.AA05237@thor.think.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 13:41:48 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Anybody know when the Rochester, New Hamshire (not New York) > hamfest is going to be...???? this used to be the Deerfield > fest And does anyone have driving directions? John, WB7EEL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 14:10:31 1994 Return-Path: id AA27030; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:12:07 -0400 Reply-To: bmitchel@CBA.Kodak.COM (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:07:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:07:14 -0400 From: Brad Mitchell Message-Id: <199404211807.AA03291@hobby1.cba.kodak.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: your note to QRP@think.com Cc: QRP@Think.COM Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > > Donald says that his rigs are crude - ha! My transmitters are cruder: > > ... > > Any of you folks who put out newsletters want photos? > > As we say on talk.bizarre, GIF! GIF! GIF! > Yes I defie any of you to show us an uglier qrp rig gif than the ugly green monster in wb8ygg.gif on think.com comon guys put up or ..... I'll be nice. Besides, I need a new backdrop for my workstation , I'm tired of looking at my own equipment every day. 73 Brad WB8YGG From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 15:19:27 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA22984; Thu, 21 Apr 94 12:19:08 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA10295; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:19:06 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA12175; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:19:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:19:05 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404211919.AA12175@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Dayton Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Jim Fitton posted the schedule for Dayton for the QRPers. Note: you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of your room. that way, people will know where you are, that is if you aren't in hiding. :-) dit dit p.s. doesn't seem like it's going to be next week. Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 15:34:02 1994 Return-Path: id AA25799; Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:34:52 EDT by qmserv.erim.org (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.1.5) id AA0.2849787190; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:34:54 EST Message-Id: <1994Apr21.153310.2849787190@qmserv.erim.org> To: QRP@Think.COM ( QRP) From: hideg@qmserv.erim.org (Steve Hideg) Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:33:10 EST Subject: Scans Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Subject Scans I'm willing to offer a service to the QRP mailing list. For those of you without scanners, you can mail me a print photo of something you'd like the group to see. I will scan the photo and upload it to an ftp server, like think.com. You can mail photos to me at: Steve Hideg ERIM PO Box 134001 Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001 If you want the photos returned, include an SASE that is large enough and has sufficient postage. To save disk space, I will save them in jpeg format. To start this off, I will be visiting the QRP Hospitality Room (once I can get a confirmation from someone as to the location of the hotel). I will photograph the people and the equipment there. These photos will be scanned and uploaded shortly thereafter. 72 --Steve Hideg, N8HSC hideg@erim.org From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 15:46:30 1994 Return-Path: id AA26278; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:43:45 HST id AA03567; Thu, 21 Apr 94 09:46:08 HST Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 9:46:08 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: *Yoogly Construxion* Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk You want crude? Try to top this: 1. All my coils are wound on toilet paper cardboard tubing. 2. Almost all components used in my projects come from thrown-out TV and radio sets that I find in dumpsters and neighborhood trash. The only parts I've had to buy in the last several years were trimmer caps from RS (I waited until they went on sale). QRP in it's purist form. 72.5, Jeff NH6IL This article is NOT copyrighted. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 16:30:10 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404212029.AA18732@Early-Bird.Think.COM> From: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 16:29 EDT To: qrp@Think.COM Content-Type: Content-Length: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To: qrp@think.com Subject: homebrew Jeff, You homebrew projects with wooden blocks and wood screws? Wood screws? You mean to tell me that I can use screws to hold these rigs together? Wow, what a concept! {:^) I'll try that next project. Tell me, what other modern shortcuts can I use? 73, (smile on face, tongue in cheek) John N3PFF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 16:59:34 1994 Return-Path: by harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.8/3.4davy) id PAA13662; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:59:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199404212059.PAA13662@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> From: Duane P Mantick Subject: Re: Dayton To: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:59:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404211919.AA12175@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> from "Chuck Adams" at Apr 21, 94 02:19:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 535 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > > Note: you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to > Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of > your room. that way, people will know where you are, > that is if you aren't in hiding. :-) > In spite of the smiley face at the end, there's not a snowballs chance in hell that I'd go too far out of my way to announce myself as a ham in that manner in a big city area. There is crime in Dayton, and you can bet that a theif would just LOVE to have a motel room advertised to him. Duane From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 17:04:09 1994 Return-Path: id AA23395; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:03:19 PDT id AA06055; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:03:18 PDT id AA08975; Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:04:54 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: stark Subject: Re: *Yoogly Construxion* To: Jeffrey Herman Cc: QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Jeffrey Herman wrote: > > You want crude? Try to top this: > > 1. All my coils are wound on toilet paper cardboard tubing. > > 2. Almost all components used in my projects come from thrown-out > TV and radio sets that I find in dumpsters and neighborhood trash. > The only parts I've had to buy in the last several years were > trimmer caps from RS (I waited until they went on sale). > > QRP in it's purist form. > > 72.5, > Jeff NH6IL > > This article is NOT copyrighted. > Gee, I just have to ask, did you empty all the coil forms yourself? If so does that mean we are limited in how much building we can do by how much we eat? ........................KU7Y........................ .................Monte "Ron" Stark.................. .................Sun Valley, Nevada................. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 21:12:22 1994 Return-Path: id AA03913; Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:09:32 HST id AA21834; Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:12:04 HST Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:12:03 HST From: Jeffrey Herman To: stark Cc: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Re: *Yoogly Construxion* In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Ron asks if I emptied all the coil forms myself. Luckily, I work at a university with 20,000 students so I have an endless supply of cardboard coil forms (the janitor on my floor used to have a novice license when he was young so he understands when I ask him to save some forms for me). Gad, this is a great hobby! On the air without having to spend a penny. Jeff NH6IL From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 21:30:21 1994 Return-Path: id AA01029; Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:28:50 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 18:28:50 PDT From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Message-Id: <9404220128.AA01029@deneb.csustan.edu> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: QSLs on the door at Dayton. Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk It is a tradition to put QSLs on the door of your room at Dayton. Everyone does it, and the doors are on the inside of the motel in a hallway. I know, because I was there last year, so don't be afraid to bring them. 72, Doug My QSL will be on the door!! 72. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 23:00:03 1994 Return-Path: Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:00 EDT for Think.COM!qrp id m0puAtJ-0000vYC; Thu, 21 Apr 94 22:22 EDT Message-Id: From: andrews@fms.com (Andrew Sargent N8OFS) Subject: Re: Hawaii 10M beacon project To: jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 22:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: qrp@Think.COM (QRP) In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey Herman" at Apr 3, 94 02:46:03 pm Reply-To: andrews@telemax.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 408 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Jeffrey Herman > Mathematics Department > University Of Hawaii > 2565 The Mall > Honolulu, HI 96822 > > Thanks so much, Andy! > -- Mesmerized by a decade of hate, ! AMATEUR = N8OFS Flowers and remorse, ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT Fading vision lost in time, ! CB = THE NEON KNIGHT Tragedy on course!!! - Frontline Assembly ! HACKER = TH3 N30N KN16Ht From qrp-admin@Think.COM Thu Apr 21 22:59:58 1994 Return-Path: Thu, 21 Apr 94 23:00 EDT for Think.COM!qrp id m0puB0o-0000jWC; Thu, 21 Apr 94 22:30 EDT Message-Id: From: andrews@fms.com (Andrew Sargent N8OFS) Subject: Re: Hawaii 10M beacon project To: jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 22:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: qrp@Think.COM (QRP) In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey Herman" at Apr 3, 94 02:46:03 pm Reply-To: andrews@telemax.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1004 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hello again Jeff, Hey, I recieved your $cash$ no problem. I've been busy, and I haven't been able to get to my other office to send out the xmiter UPS. BTW, if you want to save some money, I'll rip the power-supply out of it. That'll save you 4 pounds, think about it. I have a box, I have the packing materials, I just need a moment at my other office without being run-around-in-a-million-directions. ABT the QSL thing, if it says "...QSL VIA N8OFS..." I'll order the cheap cards tommorrow. I think it would really be fun to be the QSL manager for the _only_ 10M beacon in HI. I also need to know what freq your going to put it on so I can tell all my friends. Well, got to get back to studying... So long for now... -- Mesmerized by a decade of hate, ! AMATEUR = N8OFS Flowers and remorse, ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT Fading vision lost in time, ! CB = THE NEON KNIGHT Tragedy on course!!! - Frontline Assembly ! HACKER = TH3 N30N KN16Ht From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 02:17:46 1994 Return-Path: id WAA25890; Thu, 21 Apr 1994 22:24:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 22:24:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Kaul Subject: Adding QRP contests to CT To: ct-user@sttng.mlo.dec.com Cc: QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: <9404212300.AA08993@sttng.mlo.dec.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8. And am wondering if there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of contests CT serves? The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in the Spring CW QSO party - signal report, state, QRP-ARCI# or power --- i.e. 599 CA 6872) that they cannot be adapted easily to any other CT format (either contest or the DXpedition)---i.e. only option seems to be paper logs. We are not a very big group, but a lot of us are already using CT anyway in the CQWW, ARRL, 10/160/Field-day, All-asian,etc., and have been for some time. Is there a chance? Tnx, de W6RCL [] kaul@netcom.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 08:27:28 1994 Return-Path: id AA19108; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:25:38 -0400 id AA29442; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:25:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:25:37 -0400 (EDT) From: howie cahn Subject: Re: Adding QRP contests to CT To: Alan Kaul Cc: ct-user@sttng.mlo.dec.com, QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote: > I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8. And am wondering if > there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of > contests CT serves? The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in As I understand it, CT version 9 can be customized for any arbitrary contest info. I'll ask Ken, K1EA, who I assume I'll see at Dayton next week. 72/73... howie wb2cpu@world.std.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 08:57:42 1994 Return-Path: id AA20834; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:00:47 -0400 Reply-To: bmitchel@CBA.Kodak.COM (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:56:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 08:56:03 -0400 From: Brad Mitchell Message-Id: <199404221256.AA04069@hobby1.cba.kodak.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Ugly rig competition Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Hi guys, I think it would be really neat for one of the clubs like Nor Cal or the NE club to sponsor a Ugly rig competition. Here is a proposal. Criteria for judging: 1. Resourcefulness. (dumpster diving approved and encouraged.) 2. Looks (it better not look good .gif and .jpg on think.com required) 3. Performance (one contact required, must not be scheduled) 4. Re-usability, can someone else drag this out of the dumpster and re-use it for something. Submissions required: 1. a paragraph that states your resourcefulness for parts aquisition. 2. A .gif or .jpg pic to think.com 3. proof of the contact. QSL 4. proof of spousal discontent .... just kidding. Rules could include starting the construction of the rig no earlier than a now, and finishing by the end of the summer.. (this proves they are true hams building during the sweaty months). Just a suggestion, but the prize could be something on the order of a kit like a Nor cal or a nn1g or something like that. That way we can assist these poor individuals up the construction evolutionary chain. I think it would inspire some competition, and it would be lots of fun!! So clubs, what say clubs?? 73 Brad WB8YGG From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 09:18:26 1994 Return-Path: id AA00962 for qrp@think.com; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:15:52 -0400 (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0puL0S-000B3gC; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:10 EDT id AA2440 ; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:15:20 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 13:03:39 GMT Message-Id: <18598@jek> From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) To: QRP@Think.COM Subject: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Duane P Mantick said: >Chuck Adams said: > >> >> Note: you should bring some extra QSL cards with you to >> Dayton for the purpose of putting on the outside of >> your room. that way, people will know where you are, >> that is if you aren't in hiding. :-) >> > >In spite of the smiley face at the end, there's not a snowballs chance in >hell that I'd go too far out of my way to announce myself as a ham >in that manner in a big city area. There is crime in Dayton, and you >can bet that a theif would just LOVE to have a motel room advertised to him. > >Duane > > Knowing how tight-fisted hams are, if I were a thief I'd concentrate on rooms that didn't have QSLs on the door! 73 Jim, KR1S (Days Inn--South) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 09:39:28 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404221339.AA24765@Early-Bird.Think.COM> From: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:38 EDT To: qrp@Think.COM Content-Type: Content-Length: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To: qrp@think.com Subject: Jeff's projects Jeff, I agree with Ron KU7Y, sure glad you didn't have to empty all those coil forms your self! OK, I'll stop pulling your leg for a moment. Did you ever consider pooling dumpster dive resources? We could swap our good junk for someone else's good junk. We could all benefit from this. You never know what goodies lurk in the other guy's junkbox. I will that some time this weekend to search through the junk box. If you folks are interested, I will post items for swap, trade, sell, or whatever. I know darn well that I will not have time to start a few "round tuit" projects I have been saving. I have also found new interests, such as the QRP rigs, to hold my interest. Give it some thought, let me know. 73 John N3PFF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 10:08:51 1994 Return-Path: id AA04628; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:06:48 -0400 id AA04908; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:09:39 EDT id AA21338; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:09:36 EDT Message-Id: <9404221409.AA21338@kaos.ksr.com> To: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Cc: qrp@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:38:00 EDT." <9404221339.AA24765@Early-Bird.Think.COM> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:09:35 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > Did you ever consider pooling dumpster dive resources? We could > swap our good junk for someone else's good junk. We could all > benefit from this. You never know what goodies lurk in the other > guy's junkbox. I'm up for it; I know *my* junk box is bursting with stuff I thought was a good idea at the time... I'll rummage through the pile this weekend. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 10:31:37 1994 Return-Path: id HAA07035; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 07:32:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 07:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Kaul Subject: Re: Adding QRP contests to CT To: howie cahn Cc: QRP@Think.COM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk HOWIE: re attached. When you ask, pls inquire if there's a Ken will write a mod for Version 8 ... pls and tnx and 73, 72 de W6RCL [] kaul@netcom.com On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, howie cahn wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote: > > > I'm a registered user of versions 6, 7, and 8. And am wondering if > > there's much chance that the QRP ARCI contests might get added to list of > > contests CT serves? The exchanges are complicated enough (for example in > > As I understand it, CT version 9 can be customized for any arbitrary > contest info. I'll ask Ken, K1EA, who I assume I'll see at Dayton next week. > > 72/73... howie > wb2cpu@world.std.com > From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 10:43:28 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA16539; Fri, 22 Apr 94 07:43:01 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA14657; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:42:59 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA13270; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:42:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:42:52 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404221442.AA13270@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: QSL Cards Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Jim, KR1S, writes that if any self respecting thief was in Dayton, they would not concentrate on rooms that had QSL cards on the door. I think any self respecting human being is going to leave Dayton next week. :-) I'll be there and I'll have my QSL on the door, unless my roommate objects. Last night I was on TV, Channel 13 here in Dallas, for six hours taking auction bids over the phone. Good thing that I can still write 40 wpm. :-) So now everybody knows what I look like in Dallas. As I understand it, and I'm getting this second hand and I don't have all the details, Ron M. won the K5FO Trophy for the first annual WAS NorCal 40 contest. Ironic that it was with the rig that I built. I assure you that there was no bias in this, as I was not the committee that decided the winner. Geographically, I predicted that it would be someone from the East coast or Central area of the states. If you think about it, it is logical. Posting on Monday on the new OHR Classic dual band xcvr. Stay tuned as you pack for Dayton. The excitement grows. Soon to be K5FO/8 Days Inn South, Make that mobile, then /8 dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 10:46:22 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA16852; Fri, 22 Apr 94 07:45:22 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA14661; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:45:19 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA13279; Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:45:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 09:45:18 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404221445.AA13279@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Dayton Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Gang, anyone want to see postings from fellows/gals going to Dayton and stuff they weren't planning to bring, but could bring if fellow QRPer wanted to swap there? kills two birds with one stone. Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 10:52:09 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404221444.AA27030@Early-Bird.Think.COM> From: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:14 EDT To: qrp@Think.COM Content-Type: Content-Length: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To: qrp@think.com Subject: contest The ugly kit contest sounds like an excellent idea. Brad, put me on your list. I'll past along the idea to our local ARA and the new University Club. No problem with the wife during construction time, I'll just let her think that I'm finally doing the 'HoneyDo' bench repair jobs. Let's see... how long can it take to repair the old toaster? Um, "hey wife, need a 100 puff cap for the sweeper, a power MOSFET for the stereo, gel cells for the proch lights,"... You know, I could just be on to something here! Try it out guys, and give me the results. {:^) 73 John N3PFF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 11:56:54 1994 Return-Path: <01HBH1A9ZDPCFUNY78@tntech.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:56:14 CDT Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:56:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "JEFF M. GOLD" Subject: OHR Classic Duex To: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBH1AA06N6FUNY78@tntech.edu> X-Vms-To: QRP X-Vms-Cc: JMG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk All, Well.. finally had some time to start on the Oak Hills Classic 20/40 meter dual bander. I usually take a project like this one stage at a time and open the parts package for the first board.. or section.. and take out a big piece of paper for resistors, caps, chokes, etc and seperate and label them by part number. With this project, I took a little different approach.. I took my plastic parts bins and seperated the parts out by type (resistor, caps, transistors). I just finished placing all the resistors on the Oscillator board last night. I have vowed to really take my time on this one.. my goal is to be able to have people look at the top OR the bottom of the boards and be impressed. My wife does needlepoint and such, her stuff is beautiful and keep suggesting she enter it into the county fair.. Her comments have been the top side looks great.. but don't turn it over.. guess I want to enter this into the County Fair (HI HI). The boards for this rig have been done by another company according to Dick from Oak Hills. The parts on the board are fairly close together and Dick wanted a super clear silk screen. In my opinion, he accomplished his goal. There was absolutely no question as to what parts go where. I found it easier to use the parts overlay (VERY clear) to locate the position of the parts on the board. The boards are works of art. Besides their clear silk screening, they are plated through and the bottom side is coated to make it much harder to get accidental solder bridges. The up side of this is that if you have a good iron and take your time.. the end product should be better quality than what you buy assemled.. really solid, pretty solder joints. The down side is that if you put a part in the wrong place, much harder to desolder. 73 Jeff, AC4HF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 12:14:52 1994 Return-Path: id m0puMwd-0000K7C; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:15 CDT Message-Id: From: jason@persoft.persoft.com (Jason Penn) Subject: Stocking the Junk Box at Dayton To: qrp@Think.COM Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:15:03 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Chuck's post regarding things wanted at Dayton prompts me to query the QRP gang. I want to "stock up" (read: I don't have any now) on things like little toroids, enamel wire, etc. I'd like any points of view or recommendations for sources likely to be at Dayton. I assume folks like "Dan's Small Parts & Kits" and Oak Hills Research, etc. will be there? BTW, my recently bought HW-8 is slowly getting better. Last night's healing session revealed two wiring errors that imply it has *never*, *ever* been a working rig. Hard to believe, but true... After these, my mind boggles at what else I will find wrong. For instance, the "loading" air-variable cap was soldered to the wrong switch lug and not connected to anything. Now at least 80m and 20m make RF. The diode in the "relative output power" meter circuit is backwards and now that the rig makes RF the meter slams in the wrong direction. :-) -- Jason F. Penn N9RPT | Persoft, Inc. | jason@persoft.com Whenever I want to find something, it's always in the last place I look. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 12:28:12 1994 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9404221625.AA01878@Early-Bird.Think.COM> From: ryme@husky.bloomu.edu Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:14 EDT To: qrp@Think.COM Content-Type: Content-Length: Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk To: qrp@think.com Subject: contest The ugly kit contest sounds like an excellent idea. Brad, put me on your list. I'll past along the idea to our local ARA and the new University Club. No problem with the wife during construction time, I'll just let her think that I'm finally doing the 'HoneyDo' bench repair jobs. Let's see... how long can it take to repair the old toaster? Um, "hey wife, need a 100 puff cap for the sweeper, a power MOSFET for the stereo, gel cells for the proch lights,"... You know, I could just be on to something here! Try it out guys, and give me the results. {:^) 73 John N3PFF From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 12:39:07 1994 Return-Path: id AA22997; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:38:53 -0400 id AA18181; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:38:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:38:52 -0400 From: Scott Cranston Message-Id: <9404221638.AA18181@alpha.zk3.dec.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Ramsey SX-20 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Haven't seen this posted yet, so.... Ramsey SX-20 20 Meter SSB/CW Tranceiver - DDS synthesizer tunes in 10hz steps (rotatary tunning knob) - dual speed tunning rate - digital display - built in iambic keyer with digital spped readout - 2 VFO's with memory - RIT with digital display - dual selectable AGC - instant "one touch" WWV reception - 10 watt RF output (adjustable for QRP operation) - sealed membrane front panel - includes hand mike with up/down frequency buttons Cost: Kit - $349.95 Assembled w/ 1yr warrenty - $429.95 Ramsey Electronics, Inc. 793 Canning Parkway Victor, N.Y. 14564 (its just southeast of Rochester N.Y) phone; 716-924-4555 Disclaimer: I don't own one of these, work for or receive any benifit from Ramsey Electronics. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 12:43:56 1994 Return-Path: id AA06553; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:43:31 -0400 id AA06091; Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:46:20 EDT id AA28608; Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:46:19 EDT Message-Id: <9404221646.AA28608@kaos.ksr.com> To: jason@persoft.persoft.com (Jason Penn) Cc: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: Stocking the Junk Box at Dayton In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:15:03 CDT." Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:46:17 -0400 From: "John F. Woods" Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk > BTW, my recently bought HW-8 is slowly getting better. Last night's healing > session revealed two wiring errors that imply it has *never*, *ever* been > a working rig. Hard to believe, but true... After these, my mind boggles at > what else I will find wrong. For instance, the "loading" air-variable cap was > soldered to the wrong switch lug and not connected to anything. Heh. It could be worse. A while back, I bought an SB-401/SB-303 pair; I decided to go through the Heathkit manual and perform the kit assembly checks before powering them up, and managed to discover that in the transmitter, the T/R relay was miswired, such that B+ was grounded. OW! (It may have been an intermittent problem, since (a) the rig looked like it had gotten some use, and (b) I think it was a coax shield causing the short.) I eventually got it to the point where it almost worked (the transmitter probably has a parasitic problem still, and the receiver's IF alignment has to be off, since the CW filter's audio peak is above 2Kc (way too high a pitch for comfortable copy... :-( )) when I lost space on the kitchen table... Now that I have a basement to fill with a shack, someday I'll try again. From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 12:45:40 1994 Return-Path: <01HBH482A7069JFF30@fair1.fairfield.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:19:18 EST Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:19:18 -0500 (EST) From: "DONALD A. COLEMAN (EXT. 2850)" Subject: good idea! To: jfw@ksr.com Cc: qrp@Think.COM Message-Id: <01HBH482A7089JFF30@fair1.fairfield.edu> X-Vms-To: IN%"jfw@ksr.com" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"qrp@think.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I think you have a very good idea there--about swapping junk-box contents, I mean. What with all the swap nets on the air these days, such a network (of whatever sort) would kind of round things out for us electronic bums. And speaking of bums, I amusedly resent all these up-start claims to crudity. After all, I've got a reputation to live down to here! My stuff doesn't come from dumpster-diving, I have to acknowledge. Most of it comes from bargain packs of junk from Radio Shack and other places. My vfo is a pto made from a tv peaking coil or something--I don't know what it is really. I put some kind of nylon gear on the threaded stem on the coil slug. You have to adjust the base bias on the osc. transistor in order to get a decent keying characteristic on the osc. output. It's a different *kind* of crudity, but I know my superiors when I run into them. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Don Coleman, W1VOQ From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 13:17:31 1994 Return-Path: for qrp@think.com id AA04173; Fri, 22 Apr 94 10:17:16 -0700 for @sgi.sgi.com,@FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA15702; Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:17:14 -0500 for @FORWARDHOST.BAR.FOO.COM:qrp@think.com id AA13673; Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:17:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 12:17:12 -0500 From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) Message-Id: <9404221717.AA13673@chuck.dallas.sgi.com> To: qrp@Think.COM Subject: Dayton Junk Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Jason Penn, N9RPT, stated that he thought that Dan's Small Parts and Oak Hills Research will be at Dayton. BZZZZTT!! Wrong assumption. Neither will be there. Those of you who are experienced at Dayton please post your thoughts and previous experiences. 1. Kits - who was there before 2. Parts - how is the flea market, etc. for toroids, caps, resistors, etc. 3. Old unassembled Heathkits, like the HW-9s, 8s, 7s, etc. 4. Old heathkits assembled and working 5. Availability of TenTec rigs and prices From what I've been able to determine, Heathkits are getting to be priced out of the reasonable range. Everybody seems to be treating them like "wheat" pennies. People are taking them out of circulation to attempt to make a killing. My personal preference is for a newer rig with the latest design methodology applied with filtering, etc. Bring a notebook and take notes. Take pictures. Take money. Take time. Take everything. :-) Inquiring minds wanna know and we know that there is probably no single individual that'll see it all. I figure most of my time will be taken up by BSing with all the guys/gals that I've "met" over the airwaves and internet. That's OK. If I didn't wanna I wouldn't. :-) WOW. The time draws nearer and nearer. Has anyone seen a schedule? I know about the QRP ditty on Sunday morning. My flight out isn't until 7pm, so there is going to be a lotta dead time in there on Sunday. dit dit Chuck Adams K5FO CP-60 adams@sgi.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 13:27:18 1994 Return-Path: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:27:29 -0400 (EDT) id AA19116; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:26:52 +0500 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:26:50 +0500 Message-Id: <9404221726.AA19116@cortex.uchc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: QRP@Think.COM From: rmarlan@cortex.uchc.edu (Robert Marlan) Subject: OHR spirit 40 for sale Content-Length: 277 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk >Time for the annual shack clean out! > >I have a mint OHR spirit for sale. >Nicely assembled - (if I do say so...) >Aligned by Dick @ OHR >Comes with built in curtis keyer. >Will sell for best reasonable offer. >Can bring to Dayton if intersted. > >thanks >bob KA6NOC/1 > From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 19:15:07 1994 Return-Path: id QAA11998; Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:16:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 16:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Kaul Subject: Re: Adding QRP contests to CT (fwd) To: QRP@Think.COM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk Here's one answer ... someone else wrote to say that Tree Tyree's logging program can be config-ed for various info .... I have v 4.05 but no manual (I downloaded the public domain version from his bbs). Has anyone tried to configure that or earlier versions for QRP Sprints, contests or QSO parties (which req sig reports, states and QRP #'s or POWERs)? Other message attached, 73 de alan w6rcl [] kaul@netcom.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 11:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: howie cahn To: Alan Kaul Subject: Re: Adding QRP contests to CT On Fri, 22 Apr 1994, Alan Kaul wrote: > HOWIE: re attached. When you ask, pls inquire if there's a Ken will > write a mod for Version 8 ... pls and tnx and 73, 72 de W6RCL > I'll ask, but based on his past policies, I don't think there's much chance of him adding new features to a previous version. BTW, there's an Internet mailing list for CT users (I'm not currently on it and I don't have the subscription address with me) but it, or the CT BBS, are good places to bring up things like this. 72/73... howie wb2cpu@world.std.com From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 19:34:48 1994 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 01:02:31 GMT From: g3rjv@gqrp.demon.co.uk (George Dobbs G3RJV) Reply-To: g3rjv@gqrp.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <797@gqrp.demon.co.uk> To: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com, qrp@Think.COM Subject: Re: Dayton X-Mailer: PCElm 1.09 Lines: 7 Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk I seem to be getting some QRP groups items twice - anyone else ? 72 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Dobbs G3RJV "It is vain to do with more, G-QRP Club what can be done with less." -------------------------------------------------- William of Occam (1290-1350) From qrp-admin@Think.COM Fri Apr 22 21:42:28 1994 Return-Path: id AA03800; Fri, 22 Apr 94 18:40:46 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 18:40:46 PDT From: dh@deneb.csustan.edu (Doug Hendricks) Message-Id: <9404230140.AA03800@deneb.csustan.edu> To: Qrp@Think.COM Subject: NorCal 40 Parts Info Sender: qrp-admin@Think.COM Precedence: bulk This information is being posted to the net in response to several requests for the information. Here is a list of parts that are not included in the NorCal 40 partial kit now being offered by the NorCal QRP Club. The partial kit consists of pcboard, custom case with drilled front and back panels, standoffs, special screws, MVAM 108 varactor diode and instruction manual. The partial kit sells for $25.00 postpaid. Foreign orders are $30.00. California residents must add 7.75% sales tax and should include $26.94. Send orders to: Jim Cates, WA6GER 3241 Eastwood Rd. Sacramento, CA 95821 Make checks and money orders out to Jim Cates and not to NorCal QRP club. Part Number Source 3 - 5 pF 10%/50V disc 21CB005 Mouser 1 - 10 pF 10%/50V disc 140-CD50S2-010J Mouser 5 - 47 pF 10%/50V disc 21CB047 Mouser 3 - 150 pF 10%/50V disc 21CB150 Mouser 5 - 270 pF 10%/50V disc 140-CD50S2-271J Mouser 1 - 39 pF Silver Mica 5% 232-1000-039 Mouser 2 - 330 pF Poly 5% 23PS133 Mouser 2 - 390 pF Poly 5% 23PS139 Mouser 1 - 820 pF Poly 5% 23PS182 Mouser 2 - 1200 pF Poly 5% 23PS212 Mouser 4 - .01uF Mylar/10%/100V 140-PM2A103K Mouser 7 - .047uF Mylar/10%/100V 140-PM2A473K Mouser 3 - .1uF Mylar/10%/100V 140-PM2A104K Mouser 4 - 2.2uF elec. non-pol 140NPRL50V2.2 Mouser 3 - 22uF elec./25V 140-XRL25V22 Mouser 2 - 100uF elec./25V 140-XRL25V100 Mouser 1 - 2-24pF air variable 530-189-0509-5 Mouser 4 - 8-50pF mica variable 24AA024 Mouser 7 - 1N914 Diodes 1N914BPH Digikey 1 - 1N5817 Shottky 1N5817GI Digikey 1 - 36V/1W Zener diode 333-1N4753A Mouser 1 - LM386 LM386N Digikey 1 - LM393 LM393N Digikey 3 - NE602N NE602N Digikey 1 - 78L08 AN78L08 Digikey 6 - 15 UH chokes 43LS155 Mouser 1 - 1 MH chole 43LS103 Mouser 4 - T37-2 Toroids T37-2 Amidon 1 - FT37-43 FT37-43 Amidon 1 - T68-7 T68-7 Amidon 2 - *3.5mm stereo jack, pcm 161-3501 Mouser 1 - *BNC jack, pc mount 177-3138 Mouser 1 - *RCA jack, pc mount 161-4215 Mouser 1 - *500 ohm pc mount pot 31CW205 Mouser 1 - *10K pc mount pot 31CW401 Mouser 1 - *100K pc mount pots 31CW501 Mouser 1 - 20 ohm-1/4 watt resistor 20Q Digikey 1 - 100 ohm-1/4 watt resistor 100Q Digikey 2 - 510 ohm-1/4 watt resistor 510Q Digikey 3 - 5.1K - 1/4 watt resistor 5.1KQ Digikey 4 - 47K - 1/4 watt resistor 47KQ Digikey 2 - 4.7M - 1/4 watt resistor 4.7MQ Digikey 1 - 8.2M - 1/4 watt resistor 8.2MQ Digikey 2 - 200 ohm trimpots 531-PT10H-200 Mouser 2 - *SPDT,PCMT Rt/Angle Sw. 10TF130 Mouser 2 - 2N2222A plastic trans. 511-2N2222A Mouser 1 - 2SC799 or MRF237 trans 2SC799 RFParts 4 - MPF102 trans. MPF102 Digikey 1 - 2N3906 333-KN3906 Mouser 6 - 4.915 MHz Crystals matched to +/- 20 KHz. Buy 10 or so surplus crystals and take the closest 4 for the filter. Crystals are available from Digikey and Mouser. 4 - Rubber Feet 517-SJ-5018GY Digikey 1 - Heatsink 33HS502 Mouser 2 - Knobs, .6" 450-2034 Mouser 1 - Knob, 1.38" 450-2039 Mouser 1 - Nylon nut, 6-32 561-G632 Mouser 1 - Nylon screw, 6-32 x .5" 561-J632.5 Mouser 1 - Fiber washer, #6 534-3233 Mouser 5 Feet #26 enamel wire Local 9 Feet #28 enamel wire Local Note: All items marked with a (*) should not be substituted for as they are used to hold the front and back panels to the pcboard. They must be an exact match. Hope this helps those who are wondering what kind of parts need to be scrounged for the NorCal 40 partial kit. 72, Doug